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SUB-FUNCTION: PRESSURE CONTROL
NOTESOnly carry out this conformity check after a complete check with the diagnostic tool
(no present or stored faults).
Application conditions: engine stopped, ignition on.
The values indicated in this conformity check are given as examples.
Order FunctionParameter or Status
checked or ActionDisplay and Notes Fault finding
1Gear engagedET013:Gear engagedR for reverse.
1P for 1
st locked.
2P for 2nd locked.
3P for 3rd locked.
4P for 4th locked.
1G for 1st slipping.
2G for 2nd slipping.
3G for 3rd slipping.
4G for 4th slipping.
1 for 1st unlocked.
2 for 2nd unlocked.
3 for 3rd unlocked.
4 for 4th unlocked.In the event of a
fault, refer to the
interpretation of this
status.
2Engine speedPR006:Engine speed0 rpmIn the event of a
fault, refer to the
interpretation of
fault DF236 "Invalid
engine speed
multiplex signal".
3Oil pressurePR003:Oil pressureX < 0.2 barIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
4Gearbox oil
pressure sensor
voltagePR118:Gearbox oil
pressure sensor
voltageX = 5 VIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
5Reference
pressurePR138:Reference
pressure21 bar None.
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SUB-FUNCTION: LOCKUP/UNLOCKING (CONTINUED)
NOTESOnly carry out this conformity check after a complete check with the diagnostic tool
(no present or stored faults).
Application conditions: engine stopped, ignition on.
The values indicated in this conformity check are given as examples.
Order FunctionParameter or Status
checked or ActionDisplay and Notes Fault finding
8Gearbox oil
pressure sensor
voltagePR118:Gearbox oil
pressure sensor
voltageX = 5 VIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
9Exchanger
actuator
solenoid valve
control ET020:Exchanger
actuator
solenoid valve
controlACTIVE
INACTIVEIn the event of a
fault, refer to the
interpretation of this
status.
10Oil temperaturePR004:Gearbox oil
temperature- 40 ˚C < X < 140 ˚CIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
11Difference
between
reference
pressure and oil
pressurePR146:Difference
between
reference and oil
pressureX = PR138 - PR003 None.
12Oil too hot signalET010:Oil too hot signalYES, if oil temperature:
X > 140 ˚CIn the event of a
fault, refer to the
interpretation of this
status.
13Sequential
actuator controlAC024:Sequential
actuator controlCommand used to actuate
all the solenoid valves.In the event of a
fault, refer to the
interpretation of this
command.
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Fault finding - Parameter summary table
Tool parameter Diagnostic tool title
PR001Coolant temperature
PR003Oil pressure
PR004Gearbox oil temperature
PR006Engine speed
PR007Turbine speed
PR008Computer feed voltage
PR105Vehicle speed
PR118Gearbox oil pressure sensor voltage
PR123Calculated engine torque
PR124Accel. pedal position for downshifting
PR126Current turbine speed
PR128Engine/turbine speed difference
PR135Standard pedal position
PR136Raw pedal position
PR138Reference pressure
PR146Difference between reference and oil pressure
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PR118
GEARBOX OIL PRESSURE SENSOR VOLTAGE
NOTESNo faults should be present or stored.
ELECTRICAL CONFORMITY OF THE SENSOR:
Check for continuity and absence of interference resistance on the following connections:
●connection code 5U, between components 119 and 781,
●connection code 5W, between components 119 and 781,
●connection code 5V, between components 119 and 781.
If any of the connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
If all the connections are correct, check for + 5 V on connection 5U of component 781.
If the connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring repair,
Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
If all the connections are correct, check for earth on connection 5V of component 781.
If any of the connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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PR126
CURRENT TURBINE SPEED
NOTESThere must be no present or stored faults.
Check the cleanliness and condition of the turbine speed sensor and its connections.
Check the insulation, continuity and the absence of interference resistance to earth, to + 12 V and the
following connections:
●connection code 5DA, between components 119 and 1017,
●connection code 5DB, between components 119 and 1017.
If any of the connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
Check the turbine speed on the diagnostic tool:
Gear lever position at N or P.
Oil temperature 43 ˚C: turbine speed ~ 681 rpm and engine speed: ~ 743 rpm.
Oil temperature 45 ˚C: turbine speed ~ 654 rpm and engine speed: ~ 743 rpm.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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PR128
ENGINE/TURBINE SPEED DIFFERENCE
NOTESThere must be no present or stored faults.
Check the cleanliness and condition of the engine speed sensor and its connections.
Run a multiplex network test (see 88B, Multiplex).
After these checks, if parameter PR006 Engine speed is absent, refer to the interpretation of the parameter
(see 17B, Petrol injection or 13B, Diesel injection).
Check the cleanliness and condition of the turbine speed sensor and its connections.
This parameter is the difference between parameter PR006 Engine speed and parameter PR007 Turbine speed.
Check the engine/turbine speed difference with the diagnostic tool:
Engine idling:
Engine speed: ~ 743 rpm and turbine speed: ~ 654 rpmdifference = ~ 89 rpm.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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Fault finding - Fault Finding Chart
ALP1 No dialogue with the computer
NOTESNone.
Try the diagnostic tool on another vehicle.
Check:
–the connection between the diagnostic tool and the diagnostic socket (connection and cable in good condition),
–the power supply to the computer,
–the engine and passenger compartment fuses.
Check that the CLIP sensor is supplied by connections BP32, MAN and NAM of component 225, displayed when
both red indicator lights on the sensor illuminate.
Make sure that the CLIP sensor is connected to the computer's USB port.
Make sure the CLIP sensor is communicating properly with the vehicle's computers; this can be seen by the two
green diodes on the sensor lighting up.
Check the following connections on component 225:
●connection code AP43 (+ after ignition feed),
●connection code BP32 (+ battery feed),
●connection code MAN (earth).
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
Disconnect the automatic transmission computer connector to check the insulation, continuity and the absence
of interference resistance of the following connections:
●connection code AP4, between components 119 and 1337,
●connection code BP42, between components 119 and 1337,
●connection code N, between components 119 and 107,
●connection code 3MT, between components 119 and 120,
●connection code 3MS, between components 119 and 120,
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
If the fault is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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Start with the ALP1 cycle
ALP3 Automatic transmission operating faults
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
If the engine races when shifting from 1/2 when cold (automatic transmission oil
temperature less than 15˚C), replace the pressure modulating solenoid valve
(EVM).
Use the diagnostic tool to check the
consistency between the display and the gear
lever positions (ignition on and engine
stopped).Adjust the control settings following the
instructions provided (see MR 370, Mechanical,
23 A, Automatic Transmission, Automatic
transmission control unit (for Mégane II and
Scénic II)).
Are they consistent?
Check the oil level and the condition of the oil
(colour, odour, etc.).Replace the automatic transmission (see MR 364,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Removal-Refitting (for Mégane II) and MR 370,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Removal-Refitting (for Scénic II)). Does the condition of the oil suggest there
is an internal fault in the automatic
transmission?
With the engine stopped, check the line
pressure information provided by the pressure
sensor (PR003 Oil pressure).Replace the pressure sensor (see MR 364,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Pressure sensor (for Mégane II) and MR 370,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Pressure sensor (for Scénic II)).
Is the value higher than 0.2 bar?
NO
YES
YES
NO
YES
NO
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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