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DTC B1925:
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NO YES
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IGNITION KEY SWITCH 6P CONNECTOR
GND
IG KEY SW
IGNITION KEY SWITCH 6P CONNECTOR GND
IG KEY SW
Ignition Key Switch Signal Error
NOTE:
If you are troubleshooting multiple DTCs, be sure to follow the instructions in B-CAN System Diagnosis
Test Mode A (see page 22-93).
If the vehicle is equipped with an ACURA ACCESSORY remote starter, this DTC is normal no
further diagnosis is necessary.
1. Clear the DTCs with the HDS.
2. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0) and remove the ignition key.
3. Insert the ignition key into the ignition switch, and turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
4. Check for DTCs with the HDS.
Go to step 5.
Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this
time. Check for loose or poor connections at the
immobilizer-keyless control unit 7P c onnector,
under-dash fuse/relay box 20P connector R, and at
the ignition key switch 6P connector.
5. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0) and remove the ignition key.
6. Disconnect the ignition key switch 6P connector. 7. At the ignition key switch side, check for continuity
between ignition key switch 6P connector terminals
No. 1 and No. 2.
Faulty ignition key switch or short to ground,
replace the steering lock assembly (see page 17-14).
Go to step 8.
8. Insert the ignition key into the ignition switch.
9. At the ignition key switch side, check for continuity between ignition key switch 6P connector terminals
No. 1 and No. 2.
Go to step 10.
Faulty ignition key switch, replace the
steering lock assembly (see page 17-14).
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Terminal side of male terminals
Terminal side of male terminals
Is DTC B1925 indicated? Is there continuity?
Is there continuity?
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Overview
Speed-sensitive volume compensation (SVC)Contents Audio output
Left front CH Right front CH Right rear CH Left rear CH
23-6 Audio System
System Description
The audio unit acts as the processor for all audio functions. Select audio functions from the audio unit, the audio
remote (on the steering wheel), or by using the navigation voice control system. The audio display provides the
current audio status. For vehicles with navigation, additional audio information is available by touching the audio
button on the navigation audio screen (See the owner’s manual and the navigation system manual for more details.).
The XM receiver passes its signal to the audio unit. In addition, it communicates with the audio unit via the GA-Net bus.
Any open connections in the GA-Net bus circuit causes audio and navigation functions to appear inoperative.
For vehicles with navigation, pressing the open/close switch on the navigation display panel allows access to the CD
slot and PC card.
A security signal is daisy-chained between the audio and vehicle components for integration into the vehicle’s security
system.
Some audio systems are equipped with speed-sensitive volume compensation (SVC). The navigation or audio unit
receives the vehicle speed pulse (VSP) from the ECM/PCM. The system processes the speed input and increases the
navigation or audio system volume level as the vehicle speed increases to compensate for the various interior noises
that occur at higher speeds. When the vehicle slows down, the volume returns to its normal level. The SVC has four
settings: SVC OFF, LOW, MID and HIGH that can be adjusted using the navigation or audio unit. The SVC comes from
the factory with the MID setting as the default.
To change the audio unit SVC setting, press the tune folder sound knob repeatedly until the SVC is displayed, rotate
the knob to adjust the SVC to the desired setting (SVC OFF, LOW, MID, or HIGH).
To change the navigation unit SVC setting, press the AUDIO button, and then select the SOUND icon on the navigation
display. Press the navigation display to select the desired setting (OFF, LOW, MID, HI).
The navigation system allows voice control for the audio, XM, PC card, and CD player. The GA-Net (audio unit)
communicates the voice control commands. When using the navigation TALK/BACK button, the audio is muted on all
speakers and you hear navigation sound on the front channels. When using the navigation or route guidance (RG), the
front speakers provides the navigation sound and the rear speakers continue to play. For more information, see the
navigation section. The outline of the interruption function is shown in this table.
Navigation
TALK/BACK Buttons Navigation voice
output Navigation voice
output Muted Muted
Route guidance Navigation voice outputNavigation voice
output Audio Audio
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GA-Net Bus Configuration
System Diagram (With navigation)
23-7
Reverse signalGPS antenna
AM/FM antenna Speakers
Navigation unit
Navi DVD
Navigation/Audio Display Screen
CLOCK
(Set by GPS)
Stereo Amplifier
(Premium sound
system)
Color
signal
Accessory
(MusicLink,
CD changer, etc.)
XM Receiver
XM antenna
(satellite &
terrestrial)
Auxiliary jack
assembly
Audio remote
switches
(steering wheel)
Illumination
Signal
(lighted buttons)
AM/FM
receiverCD Player
(CD, MP3, WMA)
Audio
processor
PC Card Slot (for playing audio
MP3, and WMA audio files) Navi
processor
(ECU)
GPS
receiver
Yaw rate sensor
(senses turning)
DVD player
(navi maps)
GA-Net
Audio
Audio
Section
Navigaion
Section
Illumination
(Night/Day
display mode)
ECM/PCM
(vehicle speed pulses) Microphone
(on ceiling) TALK/BACK
voice buttons
(’08 model) Climate control unit
The GA-Net bus passes audio and navigation commands throughout the navigation and audio components.
These commands include navigation touch screen and hard button signals, audio/XM selections by voice, and XM
station and music title names. Because the entire bus is daisy chained between components (see diagram), any open
or short in the GA-Net bus harness will cause any or all of these functions to become inoperative. The addition of any
audio accessory must maintain the continuity of the GA-Net bus by installing the Y cable included with the accessory
kit.
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23-7823-78 Audio System
Sound Quality Diagnosis (cont’d)
8. Compare the client’s vehicle’s sound quality results
to the known-good vehicle’s results.
If the sound quality in the customer’s vehicle is comparable to the sound quality in the known-
good vehicle, then the client’s vehicle is
operating as designed.
If the sound quality is not comparable, check these items in order.
– Loose or improperly installed speakers or other hardware that may become excited by
the vibrations generated by the speakers
– Poor power or ground to the stereo amplifier (Type S model)
– Damaged speaker(s)
– Faulty amplifier (Type S model)
– Faulty navigation unit
– Faulty audio unit Do this test to check the performance of the audio unit’s
AM and FM reception. Refer to symptom
troubleshooting: audio sound weak or distorted, or no
sound is heard from speakers (display is normal)
(see page 23-39) before continuing with this test.
NOTE:
Window tint, aftermarket theft-recovery devices and other aftermarket accessories may reduce radio
reception.
Changes in cloud cover and other atmosphere conditions will affect the ab ility of the navigation unit
or audio unit to receive radio signals.
1. Park the client’s vehicle in an open area away from buildings or other obstructions.
2. Park a known-good vehicle (same year, model, and trim level) next to the client’s vehicle, facing the
same direction.
3. Start the engine in the client’s vehicle, and turn on the radio.
4. Set the FM receiver to 87.7 MHz.
5. Press the Seek button and record the first station that the navigation unit or audio unit locks onto.
6. Press the Seek button repeatedly, and write down each station that the navigation unit or audio
unit locks onto until the station recorded in step 5 is
reached again.
7. Set the AM receiver to 530 kHz.
8. Press the Seek button, and record the first station that the navigation unit or audio unit locks
on to.
9. Press the Seek button repeatedly, and write down each station that the navigation unit or audio
unit locks onto until the station recorded in step 8 is
reached again.
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10. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
11. Start the engine in the known-good vehicle, andthen perform steps 4 thru 10 on the known-good
vehicle.
12. Compare the number of stations received in steps 6 and 9 in the client’s vehicle with the number of
stations received in the known-good vehicle.
If the number of stations received is the same, or within 10 %, the audio unit’s tuner performance
is OK. The problem may be atmospheric
conditions, multi path interference, or other
obstructions to the radio signal.
If the client’s vehicle receives fewer stations by at least 10 %, go to step 2 of poor AM or FM radio
reception of interference (see page 23-29).
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General Operation
Anti-theft Feature
Symptom DiagnosisSelf-Inertial Navigation Limitations
23-90Navigation System
General Troubleshooting Information
Refer to the Navigation System manual for the
navigation system operating procedures.
The navigation system has a coded theft protection
circuit. Be sure you have the client’s anti-theft security
code before;
Disconnecting the battery
Disconnecting the navigation unit A (17P) and C (12P) connector
Removing the No. 23 (10 A) fuse from the under-hood fuse/relay box
After service, reconnect power to the navigation unit,
and turn the ignition switch ON (II). Enter the 4-digit
anti-theft security codes, then select Done.
If the code cannot be found, use the interactive Network
(iN) to look it up. You can view the serial number in one
of the Navi ECU diagnostic screen (see page 23-139).
Alternatively, you can find the serial number from the
navigation unit in the dash.
When replacing the navigation unit, be sure to give the
client the new anti-theft security code.
Certain circumstances and system limitations can result
in occasional vehicle positioning errors. Some clients
may think this indicates a problem with the navigation
system when, in fact, the system is normal. Keep the
following items in mind when interviewing clients
about symptoms of the navigation system. The limitations of the self-inertial portion of the
navigation system (the yaw rate sensor and the vehicle
speed signal) can cause some discrepancies between
the vehicle’s actual position and the indicated vehicle
position (GPS vehicle position).
The following circumstances may cause vehicle
positioning errors:
Moving the vehicle with the engine stopped and the vehicle stopped, such as by ferry or tow truck, or if
the vehicle is spun on a turn table.
Tire slippage, changes in tire rolling diameters, and some driving situations may cause discrepancies in
travel distances. Examples of this include:
– Continuous tire slippage on a slippery surface.
– Driving with snow chains mounted.
– Abnormal tire pressure.
– Incorrect tire size.
– Frequent lane changes across a wide highway.
– Continuous driving on a straight or gently curving highway.
Tolerances in the system and map inaccuracies will sometimes limit how precisely the vehicle position is
indicated. Examples of this include:
– Driving on roads not shown on the map (map matching is not possible).
– Driving on a road that winds in one direction, such as a loop bridge, an interchange, or a spiral parking
garage.
– Driving on a road with a series of sharp hair-pin turns.
– Driving near a gradual highway exit or transition.
– Driving on one of two close parallel roads.
– Making many 90 degree turns.
– The direction to destination icon or the destination icon shown or the map may be up to several
hundred feet away from the actual location.
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Symptom DuplicationService Precautions
System Initialization
23-92 Navigation System
General Troubleshooting Information (cont’d)
If you can duplicate the symptom, compare it to a
known-good vehicle. Only use a vehicle of the same
model, same year, same trim, and same software
version. If you can duplicate the symptom in the
known-good vehicle, then it is a characteristic of the
system.
When the symptom can be duplicated, follow the self- diagnostic procedures and the appropriate
troubleshooting procedures.
When the symptom does not reappear or only reappears intermittently, ask the client about the
conditions when the symptom occurred.
– Try to establish if outside interference may be the cause.
– Try to duplicate the symptom under the same conditions the client experienced.
– Vibration, temperature extremes, and moisture (dew, humidity) are factors that are difficult to
duplicate.
– Inspect the vehicle for aftermarket electronic devices (vehicle locators, radar detector amps, etc.)
that may be hidden.
When troubleshooting navigation system problems,
ensure that the known-good vehicle is the same
software version year and model as the vehicle being
serviced. Mixing incompatible navigation DVDs or
other system components can delay the
troubleshooting process by creating effects unrelated to
the original problem. If you need to replace the navigation unit, inform the
customer that personal information in the navigation
system may be lost. If possible, have the client record
their personal information before the unit is replaced
On ’07-08 models you can back-up the navigation
data and transfer it to a new navigation unit. See save
users memory (see page 23-150).
Before disconnecting the battery, make sure you have the anti-theft codes for the audio and the
navigation system, and write down the audio presets.
Also obtain any PGM-FI or transmission DTCs and
freeze frame date (which are lost when the ECM/PCM
loses power).
When the battery is disconnected, the internal GPS clock is reset to 0:00. The clock will reset to the
correct time after the system finishes GPS
initialization.
After reconnecting the battery, you have to wait to get the initial signal from the satellite. It will take from 10
to 45 minutes.
Before returning the vehicle to the client, enter the audio and navigation anti-theft security code, then
enter the audio presets.
Adjust the setup clock settings (time zone and daylight savings) in the navigation system.
If the navigation system loses power (like the battery
was disconnected), the navigation system requires
initialization. Once completed, your system is ready to
use.
This initialization requires the following: Entering the 4-digit anti-theft security code to unlock the system
GPS initialization (may not be needed depending of the length of time the system was without power)
Map matching to align the GPS to a location on the map
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Map MatchingObtaining a Navigation DVD
23-94Navigation System
General Troubleshooting Information (cont’d)
Navigation system is unable acquire a
Move vehicle to another location
Turn the ignition switch off
Disconnect the battery for 30
minutes to clear the GPS receiver’s
memory
Reconnect the battery and follow
the screen prompts proper GPS signal.
If the navigation system finds the satellites properly,
this box clears, and changes to the Disclaimer screen. If
within 10 minutes the system fails to locate a sufficient
number of satellites to locate your position, the
following screen appears.
After 30 minutes with this screen displayed, turn off the
engine, then restart the vehicle. If the Disclaimer screen
appears, the GPS initialization is complete.
NOTE:
The average acquiring time is less than 10 minutes, but it can take as long as 45 minutes.
If the system is still unable to acquire a signal, follow the instructions on the screen. If this screen appears
again, go to troubleshooting for the GPS icon is white
or not shown (see page 23-122).
To bypass the GPS acquire screens, press and hold the Menu, and Zoom out keys at the same time.
Touch the Return button on the screen to exit the
diagnostic mode. This allows you to continue
troubleshooting while in the shop.
This part of the initialization matches the GPS
coordinates with a road on the map screen. To do this
part of the procedure, make sure that the navigation
system displays a map, and drive the vehicle on a
mapped road shown on the map screen. Do not enter a
destination at this time. When the name of the current
road you are driving on, appears at the bottom of the
screen, the entire procedure is complete. Your system
is now ready to use. If the navigation DVD is lost or damaged, or you need a
yearly
updated DVD, you have 2 ways to purchase one.
You can either call 888-291-4675, or order on-line at
www.hondanavi.com.
Both methods require a credit card. The DVD cannot be
ordered through the parts system. The following DVDs
will not work in this navigation system:
Earlier model navigation DVDs (black, orange, or older vesions with a white label)
Map software programs manufactured by other companies
DVD movies, or DVDs containing audio recordings
Copies of an original Navigation DVD
Update DVDs are available for purchase usually in the
fall of each year. They may contain the following: Enhanced maps and points of interest (POI) coverage
Fixes for minor software bugs
Additional features
NOTE: Map matching must be done any time the DVD is removed or replaced.
Always order navigation DVDs on an as-needed basis. During a typical model year, each color DVD may
undergo a half a dozen software only version
upgrades to fix minor issues on some or all models
the DVD supports. This is normal. Usually only the
letter at the end of the version number changes,
while the database (maps and POIs) remain
unchanged.
Never promise your customers future free updates.
There are no free programs for updating the
navigation DVD. Update DVDs are generally available
for purchase each fall. The on-time DVD order site
provides information when an update for a particular
color DVD is available, damaged discs are not
warrantable.
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