AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Fault finding - Introduction
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Vdiag No.: 14-18
5. FAULT FINDING LOG
You will always be asked for this log:
–when requesting technical assistance from Techline,
–for approval requests when replacing parts for which approval is mandatory,
–to be attached to monitored parts for which reimbursement is requested. The log is needed for warranty
reimbursement, and enables better analysis of the parts removed.
6. SAFETY ADVICE
Safety rules must be observed during any work on a component to prevent any damage or injury:
–check the battery voltage to avoid incorrect operation of computer functions,
–use the appropriate tools,
–immobilise the vehicle for all tests in the workshop on the automatic transmission with the engine running. IMPORTANTIMPORTANT
Any fault on a complex system requires thorough fault finding with the appropriate tools. The
FAULT FINDING LOG, which should be completed during the procedure, enables you to keep
track of the procedure which is carried out. It is an essential document when consulting the
manufacturer.
IT IS THEREFORE MANDATORY TO FILL OUT A FAULT FINDING LOG EACH TIME FAULT FINDING IS
CARRIED OUT.
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DF005
PRESENT
OR
STOREDOIL PRESSURE SENSOR CIRCUIT
CO.0: Open circuit or short circuit to earth
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault appears after a timed period of 10 seconds with the engine running
at 2000 rpm.
Special notes:
Use bornier Elé. 1681 for all operations on the computer connectors.
Disconnect the battery.
Disconnect the modular connector, and check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Disconnect the computer. Check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Repair if necessary.
Check the insulation, continuity and the absence of interference resistance to earth, to + 12 V of the following
connection:
●connection code 5U, between components 119 and 781.
With the ignition on, check for + 5 V on connection 5U of the oil pressure sensor connector.
If the connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring repair,
Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
●connection code 5W, between components 119 and 781,
●connection code 5V, between components 119 and 781.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
The voltage on connection 5U of the modular connector must be + 5 V, otherwise check the computer supply.
If the connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring repair,
Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
Reconnect the modular connector.
Measure the resistance of component 781 between connections 5V and 5W on the computer connector (female
connector).
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
Replace the sensor if the resistance is not approximately 20 kΩ.
If the problem is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF105
PRESENT
OR
STOREDDECLUTCHING WHEN STATIONARY FUNCTION
DEF: Signal outside upper limit
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault is declared present following a delay of 5 seconds, with the engine running,
the vehicle stationary with a gear engaged and a difference of more than 384 rpm
between the engine speed and the turbine speed.
Special notes:
Use bornier Elé. 1681 for all operations on the computer connectors.
Use the Mégane II or Scénic II wiring diagram Technical Note.
Check the oil level in the engine and gearbox.
Top up if necessary (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling-levels (for Mégane II) and
MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Draining-Filling (for Scénic II)).
Check the engine speed:
–Possible engine speed instability
–Deal with the faults displayed on the diagnostic tool for the injection computer.
Deal with the other faults first.
Check the turbine speed:
–Possible inconsistency with the turbine speed,
–Possible turbine sensor fault,
–Possible solenoid valve oil pressure fault.
Check the oil pressure with the engine switched off using PR003 Oil pressure: if the pressure is greater than
0.2 bars, replace the pressure sensor.
–Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
–Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating
(e.g.: air conditioning)
1Engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bar.
2Engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bar.
3Engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bar.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF113
PRESENT
OR
STOREDCONVERTER LOCK-UP SERVO CONTROL
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault appears after running command AC024 Sequential actuator control.
If the following faults are present or stored, deal with them first:
–DF003 Analogue sensor supply.
–DF005 Oil pressure sensor circuit.
–DF016 Lock-up solenoid valve circuit.
–DF177 Automatic transmission overheating.
–DF226 Automatic transmission internal pressure.
–DF244 Turbine speed sensor signal
Use the Mégane II or Scénic II wiring diagram Technical Note.
Check the quality and level of the gearbox oil (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling - levels
(for Mégane II) and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Oil change (for Scenic II)).
Check that the gearbox is not leaking oil.
Carry out the converter setting point test.
To locate the cap position, consult MR 364, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Mégane II) and MR 370, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Scénic II).
Check the oil pressure with the engine switched off using PR003 Oil pressure: if the pressure is greater than
0.2 bars, replace the pressure sensor.
Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating
(e.g.: air conditioning)
1engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bar.
2engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bar.
3engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bar.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF145
PRESENT
OR
STOREDINVALID PEDAL POSITION MULTIPLEX SIGNAL
1.DEF: Multiplex frames absent or values invalid (fault with the computer generating
the signal or multiplex line connection fault)
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
If the fault appears following a road test during which the quality of the gear changes
deteriorates.
Disconnect the battery.
Disconnect the gearbox computer. Check the cleanliness and condition of the connectors.
Disconnect the engine management computer. Check the cleanliness and condition of the connectors.
If the fault is still present, run fault finding on the injection system (see 17B, Petrol injection or 13B, Diesel
injection).
Repair if necessary.
Run a multiplex network test (see 88B, Multiplex).
If the problem is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF226
PRESENT
OR
STOREDAUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION INTERNAL PRESSURE
NOTESIf the following faults are present or stored, deal with them first:
–DF003 Sensor feeds.
–DF005 Oil pressure sensor circuit.
–DF023 Gearbox oil temperature sensor circuit.
–DF036 Pressure modulating solenoid valve circuit.
–DF244 Turbine speed sensor signal
Conditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault is declared present after a road test.
Check the gearbox oil grade and level (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Filling - levels
(for Mégane II) and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Oil change (for Scénic II)).
Check that the gearbox is not leaking oil
To locate the cap position, consult MR 364, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Mégane II) and MR 370, Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission, Line pressure
measurement (for Scénic II)).
Check the oil pressure with the engine switched off using PR003 Oil pressure: if the pressure is greater than
0.2 bars, replace the pressure sensor.
●Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 65 and 90˚C.
●Measure the line pressure under the 3 following conditions:
IMPORTANT
The vehicle must be stationary: handbrake on and brake pedal depressed, no accessories operating (e.g.:
air conditioning)
1engine speed idling:
Shift the gear lever to R, N and D, the pressure reading must be greater than 2.5 bar.
2engine speed at 1200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 4 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 5.5 bar.
3engine speed at 2200 rpm:
–gear lever in R position, the pressure reading must be greater than 11 bar.
–gear lever in D position, the pressure reading in first gear must be greater than 11 bar.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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DF244
PRESENT
OR
STOREDTURBINE SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL
1.DEF: Communication disrupted
2.DEF: No signal
NOTESConditions for applying the fault finding procedure to stored faults:
The fault appears when the engine is running and the gear lever is at P.
Special notes:
Use bornier Elé. 1681 for all operations on the computer connectors.
Disconnect the battery.
Disconnect the modular connector and check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Disconnect the computer. Check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Repair if necessary.
Check the insulation, continuity and the absence of interference resistance to earth, to + 12 V of the following
connections:
●connection code 5DA, between components 119 and 1017,
●connection code 5DB, between components 119 and 1017.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
Reconnect the modular connector.
Measure the resistance of component 1017 between the following connections:
●connection code 5DA,
●connection code 5DB.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring. Otherwise replace the wiring.
Replace the sensor or the wiring harness if the resistance is not: 300 Ω ± 40.
If the problem is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRDeal with any other faults. Clear the fault memory.
Switch off the ignition and carry out a road test followed by a test with the diagnostic
tool.
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Vdiag No.: 14-18AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Fault finding - Conformity check
MAIN SCREEN
NOTESOnly carry out this conformity check after a complete check with the diagnostic tool
(no present or stored faults).
Application conditions: engine stopped, ignition on.
The values indicated in this conformity check are given as examples.
Order FunctionParameter or Status
checked or ActionDisplay and Notes Fault finding
1Engine speedPR006:Engine speed0 rpmIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
2Turbine speedPR007:Turbine speed0 rpmIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
3Power supplyPR008:Computer feed
voltage10 V < X < 13 VIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
4Gearbox oil
temperaturePR004:Gearbox oil
temperature- 40 ˚C < X < 140 ˚CIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
5Coolant
temperaturePR001:Coolant
temperature- 40 ˚C < X < 120 ˚CIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
6Oil pressurePR003:Oil pressureX < 0.2 barIn the event of a
fault, consult the
interpretation of this
parameter.
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