1997 HONDA CR-V Valve body
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Reolace the Sensor that causedthe lighl lo go out.Does the MIL go off.,
Check for a short in the wires
lvCC linesl:1. Turn the ignition switch oFF.2. Disconnect the PCM connector D (16P).
3. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and PCM connector terminals D4 and Dl0 individually.
Repair shorl lo body ground
in the wile between the PCM
{D4} and the MAP sensor.Repair short to body ground inth€ wire between the PCMlol0l and the TP sensor.
Check tor an open in the wires
llGP line3l:1. Disconnect the fuel injectorconnectors and IAC valve con
2. Turn the ignition switch ON (lli.
3. [,4easure voltage betweenbody ground and PCM con'nector terminals A'11 and A24individually.- Repair open in the wire(slboiween the PCM 1A11, A24)and the PGM-Fl main relav.- Ch€ck lor poor connectionsor loose wires at ihe PGM-FImain relay.- Tesi lhe PGM-FI main relav
{see p.g6 1l-1871.Check for an open in the wires
{LG linesl:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2, Reconnect all sensor connec-tors,3. Reconnect the PCM connectorD (16P).
4. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
5, M easu re voltage betweenbody ground and PCM connector terminals Ag a^d 422individually.
R6pair open in the wire{slbetween the PCM {A9. A22l andG101 {located at the thetmostathousing) that had more than 1.0 V.
ls there less than 1.0 V?
Substituto a known-good PCMand rech€ck. It symptom/indica-tion goos away, replace the origi-nal PCM.
PCM CONNECTOR D (16PI
VCCl NEL/RED}
Wire side of female terminals
PCM CONNECTOR A (32PI
Wire side of lemale terminals
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PGM-FI System
Tho Maltunction Indicator Lamo(MlL) n6Yor como3 on leven lortwo laconds) rft6r tho ignhion isturnod ON {lll.
Turn th6 ignition switch ON (ll).
- Repair lhort or opcn in thowire between the No. 25METER 17.5 Al fu3e snd thegauge assembly.- Repl.co the No. 25 METER17.5 Al fus€.
ls the low oil pressure light on?
Try to start the engine.
Chock for an opsn in th€ wiro orbulb {MlL line,:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Connect the ECM/PCM con-nector terminal A18 to bodyground with a iumper wire.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
Rep.ir open in the wi.osbotween the ECM/FCM lA18land the gaugo rasombly.Roplece the MIL bulb.
ls th6 MIL on?
Substitute a known-good ECM/PCM and rochock. lf rymptom/indication goes eway, replacetho o gind ECM/PCM.
Turn the ignition switch OFF.Inspect the Fl E/M 115 A) tusein the undeFhood fuse/relaybox.
- Repair short in the wirebetween lhe Fl E/M (15 AlfusG and the PGM-Fl m.in.slay.- Roplsce th€ Fl E/M (15 Alfu3€.
Inspect the No. 13 FUEL PUMP(15 A) fuse in the under-dashfuse/relay box.
- Repair short in th6 wirebetween tho No. 13 FUELPUMP 115 A) luse and thePGM-FI main .elay.- ReDlace tho No. 13 FUELPUMP 115 Al tuse.
Engine Gontrol Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/PCM) -'98 - 00 Models
NOTE:. lf this symptom is intermittent, check tor:- A loose Fl E/M {15 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box- A loose No. 25 METER {7.5 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box- A loose No. 13 FUEL PUMP (15 Alfuse in the underdash fuse/rolay box- An intermiftent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A18) and the gauge assem-
- An int€rmiftent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (C19) and the MAP sensor- An intermiftent short in the wire between rhe ECM/PCM (C28), the TP sensor, theEGR valve lift sensor and/or {uel tank Dressure sensor- A laulty PGM-FI main relay
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR A (32P}
Wire side of female terminals
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Ch€ck tor rn opon in tha wiioa(lGP lino.):1. Disconnectthe fuel inj€ctor andIAC valve connectors.2. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll}.3. Measure voltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconn€ctor terminals B'l and89 individually.
- Repaii opon in th6 wirc{3lbetw.6n tho ECM/PCM (B1.
Bgl lnd tho PGM-FI mainroby.- Chock for poor connactionsor loo3€ wiJo3 at the PGM-FImain ralry.- T.st the PGM-FI mtin r.lay(soo p.ge 11-1871.
ls there battery voltage?
Chack for an opon in tho wire3
{PG, LG lino3l:1. Reconnect the luel iniectorand IAC valve connectors.2. Measure voltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals 82, 810,820 and 822 individually.
B.pair open in the wiroltlb.twocn tho ECM/PCM .ndG101 lloc.t6d rt th. thormoiathouingl that had mo.e than 1 .0 V.
lsthere lessthan 1.0 V?
Chock for a shon in the wira3
{VCCI, VCC2 lin..l:Measure voltage between bodyground and ECM/PCN4 connectorterminals C19 and C28 individuallv.Chock lor a short in r s€nsor:While measuring voltagebetwoen body ground and ECM/PCM connector terminals C19and C28 individually, disconneclthe 3P connector ol each sensorone at time:
. TP sensor. Fueltank pressure sensor
ls there approx.5 V?
Rooair ahort in tho wire b€twoentho MAP sen3or. TP sensor, Fuel
tank Dreaaure Sonsor and theECM/PCM tC19, C28).
ls there approx. 5 V?
Sub3lhuio . known-good ECM/PCM .nd rcch6ck. lf tymptom/indic.tion go.3 away, rapl.ceth. original ECM/PCM.Replece the ronsor thtt hadapprox. 5 V.
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28
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19202123
vXv) iiP2rELlBLK)
IGPl(YEL/BLK)
ECM/FCM CONNECTOR A {25PI
Wire side of lemale terminals
(YEL/RED)
Wire side oflemale terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {3'IP}
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vcc2(YEL/BLUIktvccl
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ldle Control System
ldle Control System
I P0505 | The scan tool indicates Diagnostic T.ouble Code (DTCI PO5O5: ldlecontrol svstem mattunction.
NOTE: lf DTC P1508 is stored at the same time as DTC P0505, troubleshoot DTC P1508 first. then troubleshoot DTC p0505.
Possibls Cause
. IAC valve mechanical malfunction. Throttle body clogged port, improper adlustment. Intake manifold gasket leakaging. Intake air hose loose leakaging. Vacuum hose leakaging
a ECT sensor incorrect output. Throttle Position sensor incorrect output
Troubleshooting Flowchart
The MIL has been reDorted on.DTC P0505 is sto.ed.
Problem verificationi1. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator Ian comes on, thenlet it idle.2. With the scan tool, check thelollowing items.- Throttle position should beapprox. 10% with the throt-tle {ully closed.- Engine coolant temperature shorJld be 194 - 205'F(90 - 96"C).lf they are not within thespec., repair the faulty sen-sor circuit.3 Check the engine speed atidle with no-load conditions:headlights, blower fan. reardefogger, radiator lan, and airconditioner are not operaling,
Inte.mittent failure. syltem is OKat this time.ls it 750 {730)* i 50 rpm?
ls il 700 (680)' rpm or less?
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l:'99 - 00 models
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(From page 11-150)
{From page 11-150}
THERMO VALVE(A/T onlyl
Check the IAC valve:Disconnect the 2P connector from
the IAC valve.
Does the engine speed droP
or the engine stall?
Adiust the (basel idl€ speed lseepage 11-169, 1t0). Itihe ba3e idle
speed cannot be adiust€d, clean
the Dorts in the throttle body.
UPPER
Check the tast idle lhermo valve:
1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
2. Remove the intake air ductfrom the throttle body.3. Start the engine and let it idle.
4. Put your finger on the lowerpon in the throttle body.
Check engine cool.nt level and for
air in the cooling sy3lem. lf OK,
reolace the f.st idle thermo valve.Does the engine speed drop?
Put your Iinger on the uPPer Portin the throttle body.
Check for vacuum leaks, make
sure the throttle valve is com'pletely clo3ed. and repair as nec-Does the engine speed droP?
Adjust the idle spoed lsee Page11-169. 1701. lf the adiustmentdoes not correct lhe problem,
r.olace the IAC valve.
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ldle Control System
ldle Air Control llAC) Valve
The scan tool indicates Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Pl508: A probtem in the ldle Air Controt flAC) varvecircuit.
The IAC Valve changes the amount of air bypassing the throttle body in response to a current signal from the ECM/PCM inorder to maintain the proper idle speed.
37 model;
IAC VALVE 2P CONNECTOR {C132}
,f rcp'# IYEL/BI.(II2f-1-d)
Y
Wir€ side of female terminals
PCM CONNECTOR A I32PI
tacvIBLK/BLU)
From AIR To INTAKECLEANER MANIFOLD
Wire side of female terminals
The MIL has beon .eport€d on.OIC Pl508 is sto.ed.
Problem veiification:1. Do the PCM Reset Procedure.2. Start the engine, and warm itup to normal operating tem-perature.
Inte.mittent failure, systcm b OKat thi3 time. Check tor poo. con-nections or loose wircs at C132(lAC v.lvel and at the PCM.
ls DTC Pl508 indicated?
Check lor an open in the wir6{lGPl lins}:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the IAC valve 2Pconnector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4. Measure voltage between bodyground and the IAC valve 2Pconnector term inal No.2.
Repair open in the wire trctwoontha IAC v!lv6 and the PGM-Flmain relly.
Chock for an opan o. short in thowi.e (lACv linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFFand reconnect the IAC valve2P connector.2. Disconnect the PCM conneclorA (32P).
3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4, Measure voltage betweenbody ground and PCM con-nector terminal A12.
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The MIL has boen r.ported on.DIC Pl 508 b 3tored.
Problem veritication:L Do the ECM/PCM Reset Pro-cedure.2. Start the engine, and warm itup to normal operating tem-perature.
Int€rmittent failure, systom is OKal lhis timo. Check lor poor con-nections or looro wirca at C132(lAc vrlvel and .t rho EcM/PcM.
ls DTC P1508 indicated?
Chock tor an open in the wir6llGPl linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the IAC valve 2Pconnector,3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).4. Measure voltage between bodyground and the IAC valve 2Pcon nector termina I No, 2.
Repair opon in the wira botwoonthe IAC valve and tho PGM-FImain aalay.
Check tor an open or short in thewire (IACV linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFFand reconnect the IAC valve2P connector.2. Disconnect ECM/PCM con-nector B {25P).3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll}.4. Measure voltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal 823.
Ropair open or short in thg wirebetween tho ECM/FCM lB23l andthe IAC valve.
ls there battery voltage?
Check the IAC valve func,tion:Momentarily connect ECM/PCMconnector terminals 823 and 82with a jumper wire several times.
Does the IAC valve click?
Subslitute . known-good ECM/PCM .nd rechock. lf symptom/indication goes aw.y, replac.th€ original ECM/PCM.
ldle Air Control (lAC) Valve {cont'd}
'98 - 00 models:
IAC VALVE 2P CONNECTOR {C132I
F rcpt*l tYELrBLxlI2/'-- rf)
Y
Wire side ot fem.le terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR B (25PI
Wire side of female torminals
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tAcv(BLK/BLUIv
PG1{BLKI
12 | t3 4 58
910 111317
1920 | 121)22
tAcv(BLK/
BLU)JUMPER WIRE
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ldle Control System
Fast ldle Thermo Valve lA/T)
Description
To prevent erratic running when the engine is warming
up, it is necessary to raise the idle speed. The fast idle
thermo valve is controlled by a thermowax plunger.
When the engine is cold, the engine coolant surround-
ing the thermowax contracts the plunger, allowing addi-
tional air to be bvDassed into the intake manifold so that
the engine idles faster. When the engine reaches operat-
ing temperature. the valve closes, reducing the amount
of air bypassing into the intake manifold.
IDLEADJUSTING
IDLETHERMOVALVE
AIR BYPASS VALVE
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Inspgction
NOTE: The fast idle thermo valve is factory adjusted; it
should not be disassembled.
1. Remove the intake air duct from the throttle body.
2. Start the engine,
3. Put your finger over the lower port in throttle body,
and make sure that there is air flow with the engine
cold (engine coolant temperature below 86"F, 30'C).
lf there is no air flow, replace the fast idle thermo
valve and retest,
O-RINGSReplace.
11.0 kgfl.m, 7.2 lbl.ftl
Start the engine. Hold the engine at 3,000 rpm with no
load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan comes
on, then let it idle.
Check that the valve is completely closed. lf the valve
is leaking, the idle speed will drop when you cover the
lower pon. Check the engine coolant level and for air
in the engine cooling system {see section 10). lf the
cooling system is OK, replace the fast idle thermo
valve and recheck.
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