PGM-FI System
Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/PCMI
('96 - 98 Models,'99 - 00 Dl6Y5 engine with M/Tl (cont'd)
NOTE:. When there is oo Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) stored, the MtL wi
stay on if the SCSservace connector is connected and the ignition switch is on,. lf this symptom is intermittent, checklor:- A loose Fl E/M 115 A) fuse in the under hood luse/relay box- A loose No. 13 FUEL PUMP fuse (15 A) in the underdash fuse/relay box- An intermittent shon in the wire between the ECM/PCM (C7) and the service cnecKconnector- An intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A18) and the gaugeassembly- An intermittent shon in the wire between the ECM/PCM {D4) and the MAp sensorAn intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (D10), the Tp sensor, theEGR valve l:ft sensor (D16Y5 engine) and/or the Fuel tank pressure sensor (,96Dl6Y8 engine (coupe), '97 016Y7 engine (coupe: KL model, sedan: KL (LX) modeli,'97 016Y8 engine {coupe: all models, sedan: KL modeti,'98,all models}- PGM-FImain relay. See the OBD ll scan tool or Honda PGM Tester user's manuals lor specitic operatinginstructions.
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C 13lPI
Wire side of female terminals
(To page 11 109)
(To page 11,109)
11-108
The Maltunction Indicator Lamp(MlLl stays on o. comes on eftartwo s€conds,
Check the Oiagnoslic TroubleCode {DTC}I1. Connect a scan tool or HondaPGM Tester.2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
3. Read the DTC with the scantool or Honda PGM Tester.
Go to troubleshooting p.oc€dur€s(se€ pago 11{11.Are any DTC{s) indicated?
Check the DTC by MIL indication:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Connect the SCS service con,nector to the service checkconnector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (lli.
Repair opon ol short in wirebotwoen the ECM/PCM (C8)
and Data Link Connector.Go to troublelhooting proce-dure ls6e page 11-811.
Does the MIL indicate any DTC?
Try to start the engine.
Does the engine start?
Check for a short in the wire(SCS lin€l:1. Disconnect the SCS serviceconnector.2. Stop the engine and turn theignition switch ON {lli.3. Measure voltage between theECM/PCM connector terminalC7 and body ground.
Ropair short to body Iround inthe wire betweon ECM/PCM lCTland sorvice check connector.
ls there approx. 5 V?
scs tBRNI
lFrom page 11 108)
Check for a short in the wire {MlLlinell1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
2. Disconnect the Eclvl/PCM con-nector A (32P).
3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).
Ropair short to body gtound in
the wir. between the ECM/PCM
lA18) and MlL.ls the MIL ON?
Substitute a known-good ECM/
PCM and recheck. lt 3ymptom/indicaiion goes away, rePlace
ihe original ECM/PCM.
(From page 11 108)
Inspect Fl E/M (10 A) fuse in theundeFhood Iuse/relay box.
- Repair short in the wirg
b€tweon Fl E/M (15 A) luse
and PGM-FI main rolay.- Replace Fl E/M (15 Alfuse.
Inspect No. 13 FUEL PUMP (15 A)
fuse in the under-dash fuse/relaY
- Repait lhort in the wire
botween No. 13 FUEL PUMP
115 Al fuse and PGM-FI main
reray.- Roplace No. 13 FUEL PUMP115 Al tu3o.
Check for a short in a 3€nsor:1. Turn the ignition switch ON (lli.
2. Disconnecl the 3P connectorfrom each sensor one at time:
. TP sensor. EGR valve lift sensor (D16Y5
engrne). Fuel tank pressure sensor('96 D16Y8 engine (coupe),'97 D16Y7 engine (couPe:
KL model, sedan: KL (LX)
model),'97 D16Y8 engine
lcoupe: all models, sedan:KL model,'98-all models)
{To page 11 110)(cont'd)
1 1-109
!
PGM-FI System
(From page 11-109)
Replace the sensor that causedthe light to go out.Does the N4lL go OFF?
Check fo. a short in the wi.os(VCC lines):':. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disco n n ect the ECM/PCMconnector D (16P).
3. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals D4 andD10 individually.
Ropair short to body groundin the wire betweon ECM/PCM {O4) and MAP s6n3or.Repair short to body groundin the wire between ECM/PCM lD10l, the TP sensor, theEGR valve lift sensor {D16Y5engine) and/or the Fuel tankpressure sensor {'96 Dl6Ygengine lcoupe),'97 D16Y7engine (coupe: KL model,sedan: KL (LXl model), '97
D16Y8 engine (coupe: allmodels, sedan: KL model. €8-allmodelsl.
ls there continuity?
Check tor rn open in the wires(lGP lines):1. Disconnect the fuel injectorsand IAC valve connectors,2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).3. Meas u re voltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals A11 and424 indivjdually.- Repair open in the wirels)between ECM/PCM (A11,A24land PGM-Fl main relay.- Check for poor connectionsor loose wiras at the PGM-FImain relay,- Test the PGM-FI mdin relavlsee pag6 11-237).
ls there battery vohage?
Check for an open in the wires(LG line3):1. Reconnect all sensor connectors.2. Reconnect the ECM/PCM con-nector D (16P).
3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).4. Measure vo ltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals Ag andA22 individually.
Repair open in the wirolglb€twe€n ECM/PCM {A9, A22} andG101 that had more than 1.0 V.
ls there less than 1.0 V?
Substitute 6 known-good ECM/PCM and r€check. lf symptom/indication 9o€s away, replacethe original ECM/PCM.
Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/pCMl
('96 - 98 Models, '99 - 00 D16Y5 engine with M/Tl (cont,dl
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR D {16P}
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR A (32P}
Wire side of female terminals
11-110
LG1
VCCl {YEL/RED}
IGP 1{YEL/BLKI
2I11
1213l5t6Itt8t9202321
25272a2930
IGP 2(YEL/BLKIv) (l
{8RN/BLK)
I258tol1'12tt11t5l617t8t920232a
2A2330
LG2{8RN/8LK}
Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/PCM)
('95 - 00 Models except Dl6Y5 engine with M/T)
NOTE:. When there is no Diagnostic Trouble Code lDTC) stored, the MIL will staY on if the SCS
seruice connector is connected and the ignition switch is on.. lf this symptom is intermittent, check for:- A loose No. 25 (METER) {7.5 A) fuse in the underdash fuse/relay box- A loose Fl E/M (15 Alluse in the undeFhood fuse/relay box- A loose No. 13 FUEL PUMPfuse (15 A) in the under-dash fuse/relay box- An intermittent shon in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A18) and the gauge assem'
- an intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (C19) and the MAP sensor- An intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM {C28), the TP sensor, the
EGR valve lift sensor (D16Y5 engine) and/or the Fuel tank pressure sensor ('96 D16Y8
engine (coupe),'97 D16Y7 engine lcoupe: KL model, sodan: KL (LX) model)"g7
Dt6Y8 engine (coupe: all mod;ls, sedanl KL model),'98-all models,'99-al' models''00-all models.- PGM'FI main relay. See the oBD ll scan tool or Honda PGM Tester user's manuals for specific operating
instructrons,
ECM,/PCM CONNECTOR A I32PI
Wire side of {emale terminals
The Mrlfunction Indicator LamP{MlL) never comes on {even tor
two seconds) after ignition is
turned ON lll).
Turn the ignition switch ON lll).
- Repair shott or open in thowire bstwoon No. 25 IMETER)l?.5 A)tuse and gauga tsom_blv.- Reolace No. 25 (METERI (7.5
Alluse.
ls the low oil pressure light on?
Try to start the engine.
Check for an opon in the wire orbulb (MlL line):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Connect the ECM/PCM con'
nector terminal A18 to bodyground with a iumper wire.
3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll)
Does the engine start?
- Repair open in tho wire3
betwoon ECM/PCM (A18) andgaugo .*tembly.- Rool.ce the MIL bulb.
Substitute a known-good ECM/
PCM and rochoc&. lf sYmptom/indication goes sw6y, repl.ce
tho original ECM/PCM.Turn the ignition switch OFF.Inspect Fl E/M (15 A)fuse in theunderhood Iuse/relay box.
Rop.ir short in the wirc
betwo€n Fl E/M (15 A) luso
and PGM-Fl mrin rGl.y.Reol.ce Fl E/M (15 A)tusa.
lnspect No. 13 FUEL PUMP {15 A}
luse in the under-dash fuse/relay
- Reoair short in the wiro
between No. 13 FUEL PUMP
115 Al luse sod PGM-FI mainrelay.- Reolace No. 13 FUEL PUMP115 A) tuse.
(To page 11 112)
(cont'd)
11-111
.f,
PGM-FI System
(From page'11-111)
Check loi an open in the wires(lGP linesl:1. Disconnect the lueliniector andIAC valve connectors.2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
3, Measu re voltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals 81 andBg individually.
- Repair open in the wiro(3)between ECM/PCM lBl, B9land PGM-Fl main relay.- Check tor poor connectionsor loose wires al the PGM-FImain relav.- Test tho PGM-FI main rehy(3.e page 11-237).
ls there battery voltage?
Check tor an open in the wires(PG, LG lines):1. Reconnect the fuel iniectorand IAC valve connectors.2. Measure voltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals 82, 810,820 and 822 individually.
Repair open in the wirels)between ECM/PCM and G 101llocated ai the l6ft side of thointaks m.nifoldl thrt h.d morethan 1.0 V.
ls there lessthan 1.0 V?
Check for a short in the wires
{VCCI, VCC2 lin6s}:Measure voltage between bodyground and ECM/PCM connectorterminals C19 and C28 individually.Check toa a 3hort in s 3ensor:While measuring voltagebetween body ground and ECM/PC[/t connector terminals C19and C28 individually, disconnectthe 3P connector of each sensorone at time:. MAP sensor. TP sensor. EGR valve. Fueltank pressure sensor
ls there approx.5 V?
Reoair short in lhe wire betwe.enMAP 3ansor, TP sensor, EGRvalve, Fuel tank pres3ure 3ensorand ECM/PCM {Cl9, C28).
ls there approx. 5 V?
Substiiute a known-good ECM/PCM and racheck. ll symptom/indicetion goes eway, replaceth6 original ECM/PCM.Replace tho sansor that had.pprox. 5 V.
Engine Control Module/Powertrain
('99 - 00 Model except Dl6Y5 (M/Tl
Module (ECM/PCM)
(cont'd)
Control
engine)
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR B {25P)
LG1 (BRN/BLKI
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C (31P)
female terminalsvcc2IYEL/BLUIvccl{YEL/RED)
Wire side of female terminals
11-112
NOTE:"in-"n tf'"r" is no Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTCi stored, the MIL will stav on ;{ the scs
service connector is connected and the ignition switch is ON (ll)
. lf this symptom is intermittent, check for:- An intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A10) and the service check
connector- An intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A181 and the gauge
. s"" it'" Oab ll scan tool or Honda PGM Tester user's manuals for specific operating
instructions.
'l
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR A I32P)
Wire side of female terminals
The Malfunction Indicator LamP
lMlL) staYs on or comes on after
Check the Diagnostic Trouble
Code (DTC):
1. Connect a scan tool or Honcla
PGM Tester.
2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll)
3. Read the DTC with the scan
tool or Honda PGM Tester.
Go to troubloshooting Proc€dures(see page 1141).Are any DTC(S) indicated?
check the DTC by MIL indic.tion:
1. Turn the ignition switch OFF
2. Connect the SCS service con_
nector to the service check
3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll)
Repair open or 3hort in wiro
between ihe ECM/PCM (A21)
and Data Link Connector.
Go to troubleshooting Ploce_du.es (see page 11-811.
Does the MIL indicate anY DTC?
Try to start the engine
Substitute . known-good ECM/
PCM and recheck lt sYmptom/
indication goes awaY, rePlaca
th. original ECM,/PCM.
Check for a short in the wi.e(Scs line):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF
and turn the ignition switch
oN 1 ).2- Meas u re voltage between
body ground and the ECM/
PCM connector terminal A10
Reoair short to body ground in
the wiro bstwaen ECM/PCM (A101
and service ch€ck connoctot.ls there battery voltage?
(To page 11-'114)
(cont'd)
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PGM-FI System
Engine Gontrol Module/Powertrain Control
('99 - 00 Models except Dl6Y5 engine with
Module (ECM/PCMI
M/T) (cont'dl
{From page 11 1 l3)
Check for a short in the wi.e lMlLlinelr1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the ECM/PCM connector A (32P).3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
Repair shorl to body ground inthe wire between the ECM/PCM{A18}and MlL.
ls the MIL ON?
Substituto a known-good ECM/PCM and r€check. lf symptom/indication goes away, roplacethe o.iginal ECM/PCM.
11-114
|'Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Sensor
(;gg - OO Models except Dl6Y5 engine with M/T)
The scan tool indicates Diagnostrc Trouble Code (DTC) PO1O7: A low input (high vacuuml problem in the
Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor'
The MAp sensor converts manifold absolute pressure into electrical signals and inputs the ECM/PCM'
OUTPUTVOLTAGE
lvl3.5
3.0
2.5
2.0
1.5
1.0
0.5
0(in.Hgl GAUGEREAOING(mmHgllq, 2oo 3q, (x, 5q) 6q) 700
MAP SENSOR 3P CONNECTOR IC114)
vccltYEL/RED)
Wire sido of fomalg tormin6ls
.-l
- The MIL h'3 been reported on- OTC P0107 b stor€d.
Problem verilication:
1. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll)
2. check the N4AP with the scan
tool.
lntermittent failuro, 3Ystom is OK
at this time. Ch€ck for Poor con'
nection3 or loose wiros at C111
IMAP sonsorl and ECM/PCM.
ls approx. 101 kPa (760 mmHg,
30 in.Hg)indicated?
Ch.ck for an opcn in wit. {vCC1
linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF
2. Disconnect the MAP sensor
connector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
4. Measure voltage between the
MAP sensor connector No. 1
terminal and No 2 terminal
Repair opsn in the wirg botween
ECM/PCM (C19) rnd MAP seGor.ls there approx. 5 V?
(To page 11-120)
{cont'd)
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