1998 HONDA CR-V idle

PGM-FI System
Electrical Load Detestor (ELDI (USA Model) (cont'dl
The scan tool indicates Diagnostic Trouble Code {DTC) Pl298; A high voltage problem in the Electrical Load
Detector (ELD) circuit.
97 modsl:
ELD 3P CONNECTOR {C35,'I
Wire sido oI lemale terminals
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/6 IBLKI
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Repail op€n in th. wire b€tws€ntho No. 15 ALTERNATOR SPSENSOR 17.5 A) tuse in theunder-dlrh fuso/r.lay box andth6 ELD.EL {GRN/NEDI
PCM CONNECTORS
Problam verification:1. Do the PCM Reset Procedure.2. Start the engine.3. Turn on the headlights.Intermittent tailuro, systcm is OK.t this time. Chack for ooor con-noction! or looro wire3 at C127{locaied on PCM brackot), C35{{ELDI and .t tho PCM.
Chack for an opan in tho wilellGl linol:1. Turn thg ignition and head-lights OFF.2. Disconnect the ELD 3P connector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4. M6asure voltage b€tw€enbody ground and the ELD 3Pconnoctor terminal No. 1.
Chock lol !n open in the wireIGND linel:'1. Turn the ignition switch andheadlights OFF.2. Disconnect the ELD 3P conneqor,3. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and the ELD 3Pconnector terminal No. 2.
Ropair opon in th6 wi.e betweonth. ELD connector rnd GiO2,
Ch.ck lo. an open in th€ wiro (EL
line):Check for continuity between theELD 3P connector terminal No. 3and PCM connector terminal 016.
Chock for . malfunction in theELD:1. Reconnect the ELD 3P con-neclor,2. Start the engine and allow itto idle.3. While measuring voltagebetween PCM connector terminals 016 and A9. turn theheadlights on (low).
ls there continuityT
R6pafu op6n in tho wire betweenthe PCM {D161snd th6 ELD.
Subltituto . known-good PCMand rachock, f symptom/indic.-tion goes awry, ropl.ce the origi-n.l PCM.
Does the voltage drop?
Wire side of lemale terminals
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Wire side of lemale terminals
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38 - 00 modeb:
Problem verification:1. Do the ECM/PCM Reset Proceoure.2. Stan the engine.3- Turn on the headlights.Intermittent feilure, sysl.m is OKat this time. Check for ooor con-nections or loose wires at C354(ELDI and at the ECM/PCM.
ls DTC P1298 indicated?
Check lor an open in the wire(lG1 line):'1. Turn the ignition and head-lights OFF.2. Disconnect the ELD 3P connector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
4, Measu re voltage betweenbody ground and the ELD 3Pconnector terminal No. '1.Reprir open or short in th6 wirebotweon the No. 15 ALTERNA-TOR SP SENSOR {7.5 Al fuse inthe under-drah fuse/relay boxand the ELD.
Check tor an opon in tho wire{GND line}:1. Turn the ignition switch andheadlights OFF.2. Disconnect the ELD 3P connector.3. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and the ELD 3Pconnector terminal No. 2,
Repair opon in the wire betweenthe ELD conneclor and GilO2.
Ched( fo. an op€n in the wir€ (EL linel:Check for continuity between theELD 3P connector terminal No. 3and ECM/PCM connector termi-nalA30.
Repair op€n in tha wile botwecnthe EcM/PCM lA30l .nd rhe ELD.
Check for s malfunction in lhe ELD:1. Reconnect the ELD 3P con-nector.2. Start the engine and allow itto idle.3. While measuring voltagebetween ECM/PCM connectorterminals A30 and 820, turnthe headlights on (low).
Substiiute a known-good ECM/PCM and recheck. It symptom/indication goos away, replacethe original ECM/PCM.
ELO 3P CONNECTOR {c35/rl
Wire side of female terminals
Wire side of female terminals
Wire side ot temale terminals
ELD 3P CONNECTOR {C35,lt
EL IGRN/RED}Wire side of femaletermrnars
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
A l32P)
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ldle Control System
System Description
The idle speed of the engjne is controlled by the ldle Air Control (lAC) Valve'
The valve changes the amount of air bypassing into the intake manifold in response to electric current controlled by the
ECM/PCM. When the lAc valve is activated, the valve opens to maintain the proper idle speed.
YEL/ From PGM'FI
BLK TMAIN RELAY
VARIOUSSENSORS
4.
IAC VALVE
INTAKE MANIFOLD
After the engine starts, the IAC valve opens for a certain time. The amount of air is increased to raise the idle speed
about 150 - 300 rpm.
when the cootant temperature ts row, the lAc valve is opened to obtain the proper fast idle speed The amount o{
bvoassed air is thus controlled in relation to the engine coolant temperature
When the idle speed is out o{ specification and the scan tool does not indicate Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0505
or P1508, check the following items:
. Adjust the idle speed (see page 11-169, 170)
. Air conditioning signal (seepagell-1551
. ALT FR signal (see page 1l-159)
. Starter switch signal (see page 11-16'1)
. A,/T gear position signal (see section 14)
. PSP switch signal (seepagell-162)
. Brake switch signal (see page 11-165)
. Fast idlethermovalve (see page'11 168)
. Hoses and connecttons. IAC valve and its mounting O-rings
lf the above items are normat, suDslitute a known-good IAC valve and readjust the idle speed {see page 11-169, 170)
lf the idle speed still cannot be adjusted to specification (and the scan tool does not indicate DTC P0505 or Pl508)
after IAC valve reolacement, substitute a known-good ECM/PCM and recheck lf symptom goes away' replace the
original ECM/PCM.
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ldle Control System
ldle Control System
I P0505 | The scan tool indicates Diagnostic T.ouble Code (DTCI PO5O5: ldlecontrol svstem mattunction.
NOTE: lf DTC P1508 is stored at the same time as DTC P0505, troubleshoot DTC P1508 first. then troubleshoot DTC p0505.
Possibls Cause
. IAC valve mechanical malfunction. Throttle body clogged port, improper adlustment. Intake manifold gasket leakaging. Intake air hose loose leakaging. Vacuum hose leakaging
a ECT sensor incorrect output. Throttle Position sensor incorrect output
Troubleshooting Flowchart
The MIL has been reDorted on.DTC P0505 is sto.ed.
Problem verificationi1. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator Ian comes on, thenlet it idle.2. With the scan tool, check thelollowing items.- Throttle position should beapprox. 10% with the throt-tle {ully closed.- Engine coolant temperature shorJld be 194 - 205'F(90 - 96"C).lf they are not within thespec., repair the faulty sen-sor circuit.3 Check the engine speed atidle with no-load conditions:headlights, blower fan. reardefogger, radiator lan, and airconditioner are not operaling,
Inte.mittent failure. syltem is OKat this time.ls it 750 {730)* i 50 rpm?
ls il 700 (680)' rpm or less?
{To page 11-151)(To page 1'l-151)
l:'99 - 00 models
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(From page 11-150)
{From page 11-150}
THERMO VALVE(A/T onlyl
Check the IAC valve:Disconnect the 2P connector from
the IAC valve.
Does the engine speed droP
or the engine stall?
Adiust the (basel idl€ speed lseepage 11-169, 1t0). Itihe ba3e idle
speed cannot be adiust€d, clean
the Dorts in the throttle body.
UPPER
Check the tast idle lhermo valve:
1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
2. Remove the intake air ductfrom the throttle body.3. Start the engine and let it idle.
4. Put your finger on the lowerpon in the throttle body.
Check engine cool.nt level and for
air in the cooling sy3lem. lf OK,
reolace the f.st idle thermo valve.Does the engine speed drop?
Put your Iinger on the uPPer Portin the throttle body.
Check for vacuum leaks, make
sure the throttle valve is com'pletely clo3ed. and repair as nec-Does the engine speed droP?
Adjust the idle spoed lsee Page11-169. 1701. lf the adiustmentdoes not correct lhe problem,
r.olace the IAC valve.
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ldle Control System
ldle Air Control llAC) Valve
The scan tool indicates Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Pl508: A probtem in the ldle Air Controt flAC) varvecircuit.
The IAC Valve changes the amount of air bypassing the throttle body in response to a current signal from the ECM/PCM inorder to maintain the proper idle speed.
37 model;
IAC VALVE 2P CONNECTOR {C132}
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Wir€ side of female terminals
PCM CONNECTOR A I32PI
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From AIR To INTAKECLEANER MANIFOLD
Wire side of female terminals
The MIL has beon .eport€d on.OIC Pl508 is sto.ed.
Problem veiification:1. Do the PCM Reset Procedure.2. Start the engine, and warm itup to normal operating tem-perature.
Inte.mittent failure, systcm b OKat thi3 time. Check tor poo. con-nections or loose wircs at C132(lAC v.lvel and at the PCM.
ls DTC Pl508 indicated?
Check lor an open in the wir6{lGPl lins}:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the IAC valve 2Pconnector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4. Measure voltage between bodyground and the IAC valve 2Pconnector term inal No.2.
Repair open in the wire trctwoontha IAC v!lv6 and the PGM-Flmain relly.
Chock for an opan o. short in thowi.e (lACv linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFFand reconnect the IAC valve2P connector.2. Disconnect the PCM conneclorA (32P).
3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4, Measure voltage betweenbody ground and PCM con-nector terminal A12.
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Alternator (ALT) FR Signal
This signals the ECM/PCM when the Alternator (ALTI is charging.
,97 modet: PCM GONNECTORS
wire side of female terminals
ALT CONNECTOR (C1O5I
lPr-F- ALT F
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c (31P|
wire side ol f€male terminals
PCM CONNECTOR C I31P)
3Pr
JUMPERWIRE
Inspection ot ALT FR Signal.
Check lor a short in the wire
{ALT F line}:1. Disconnect the 4P 13Pi* connector from the ALT.2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll)
3, Measure voltage betweenPCM connector terminals C17
and A9.Check for a short in the wire(ALT F linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat'tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect PCM connector C(31P).
4. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and PCM connector terminal C17.
ls there approx. 5 V?
Check th€ ope.ation of the ALT:
1. Turn the ignition switch OFF2. Reconnect the ALT 4P {3Pi*connector to the ALT.3. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with no
load (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator fan comes on,
then let it idle.4. Measure voltage betweenPCM connector terminals C17and A9.
Ropeir short in the wir6 betweonthe PCM lC17l and the ALT.
Substitut. a known-good PCM
and recheck. lf prescribed volt-
age is now availablo, replace the
originalPCM.
Does the voltage decrease when
headlights and rear defogger are
turned on?ALT FR signal b OK.
Ch€d( for an op€n in tho wire IALTF linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat-tery cable lrom the battery.3. Disconnect PCM connector C(31P).
4. Disconnect the 4P (3P)* con-nector lrom the ALT.5. Connect the ALT 4P (3P)* con-nector terminal No. 4 (No. 1)*to body ground with a iumper
6. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and PCN4 con'nector terminal Cl7.
Repair open wi.e between thePCM lCl7l and the ALT.ls there continuity?
ALT F IWHT/REDI
Wire side of female terminals
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ldle Gontrol System
Alternator (ALT) FR Signal (cont'dl
'98 - 00 modols:
ALT CONNECTOR (C1I}5I
4P
rH] Arr Fl'l'ltwHr/REo)l3laF1
I JUMPER WIRE JUMPER+ WIRE
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {31PI
Wire side of female terminals
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {31P}
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1 1-160
B (25P)
Insp€ction of ALT FR Signsl.
Check fo. a shon in th. wire {ALTF linel:1. Disconn6ct the 4P (3P)* con-nector from the ALT.2. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).3. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals C5and 820.Ch€ck for a sho.t in iho wirc lAlTF lino):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnecl the negative bat,tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect ECM,PCM connec-torC (31P).
4. Check for continuity betwoenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal c5.
ls there approx. 5 V7
Check the opcration of the ALT:1. Turn the ignitioo switch OFF.2. Reconnect rhe ALT 4P (3P)*connector to the ALT.3. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator lan comes on,then let it idle.4. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals C5and 820.
Roprir lhort in tho wirc bstweentho ECM/PCM {Csl and the ALT.
Substitut. r known-good ECM/PCM and roch.ck. It Droscrib.dvoltage b now lvrilabls, .eplaccth. o.igin!l ECM/PCM.
Does the voltage decrease whenheadlights and rear defogger areturned on?ALT FR 3ignol is OK,
Chock lor an opon in tha wire (ALTF linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat-tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect ECM/PCM con-nector C (31P).4. Disconnect the 4P 13P)* con,nector from the ALT.5. Connect the ALT 4P {3P)* con-nector terminal No. 4 1No. 1)*to body ground with a jumper
6. Check for continuity betwe€nbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal C5.
Rsprir opan wiro batw.en thoECM/PCM lcsl .nd th. ALT.ls there continuity?
AI.T F IWHT/REDI
ALT F {WHT/REDI
Wire side ot Iemale terminals
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