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Symptom Troubleshooting (cont’d)
NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
Check that the GPS antenna is plugged in.
This is not the same condition as when driving off- road (or on a fire or logging road). This condition is
caused by a loss of map matching from a bad sensor
input. Check for after market window tinting or other
objects that can block the GPS signal. Always do the
Map matching (see page 23-269) before proceeding
with the troubleshooting.
Make sure that the correct DVD color and version are installed.
Inspect the DVD for dirt or damage.
Check any official Honda service website for more service information about the navigation system.
Check the GPS signal reception in an open area.
1. Check the GPS icon on the navigation screen.
Do the troubleshooting for GPS icon is white
or not shown (see page 23-341).
Go to step 2. 2. Go into the Self-Diagnosis Mode, and use the Yaw
Rate test (see page 23-314) to check the yaw rate
sensor.
3. Go into the Self-Diagnosis Mode, and use the Car Status test (see page 23-315) to check the vehicle
speed pulse.
The condition may be normal. Check to see if
the condition occurs in the same place in a known-
good vehicle. If it does, the problem could be in the
database.Gotostep4.
If the problem is the yaw rate sensor, replace
the navigation unit (see page 23-355). If the
problem is the vehicle speed pulse, check for an
open in the wire between the navigation unit and
the ECM/PCM (VSP signal). If the wire is OK,
substitute a known-good navigation unit, and retest.
If the problem goes away, replace the original
navigation unit. If the problem is still present,
replace the ECM/PCM.
4. Substitute a known-good navigation unit, and check to see if the problem occurs in the same
place.
The problem is in the database. Report the
problem according to the Navigation System
Manual under Reporting Errors.
Replace the original navigation unit (see page
23-355).
Is the GPS icon white? Ar e t he y aw r at e sensor and v ehi cl e speed pul se
OK ?
Does t he pr obl em occur i n t he same pl ace?
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driving (does not follow a displayed road) or
map or vehicle ICON spins
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NO
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NO YES
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NO
23-345
NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
This is not the same condition as when driving off-road (or on a fire or logging road).
This condition is caused by a loss of map matching from a bad sensor input. Check for aftermarket or
other objects that can block the GPS signal. Always
perform Map matching (see page 23-269) before
proceeding with the troubleshooting.
Always check for and resolve all CAN DTCs before troubleshooting the navigation system.
Verify that the correct navigation unit is installed for this model. Go into the Diagnostic mode, and use
Version (see page 23-316).
Make sure that the correct DVD color and version are installed.
Check for aftermarket metallic window tinting.
Inspect the DVD for dirt or damage.
Check any official Honda service website for more service information about the navigation system.
Before troubleshooting, make sure you have anti- theft codes for the navigation system.
After troubleshooting, enter the anti-theft codes for the navigation system.
Check the DVD for damage or scratches.
Check for connectors for poor connections or loose terminals.
1. Check the GPS icon on the navigation screen.
Do the troubleshooting for GPS icon is white
or not shown (see page 23-341).
Go to step 2.
2. Go into the Self-Diagnostic mode, and use the Yaw Rate diagnosis (see page 23- 314) to check the yaw
rate sensor.
Go to step 3.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355). 3. Go into the Diagnostic mode, and use the Car
Status diagnosis (see page 23-315) to check the
vehicle speed pulse (VSP) and the BACK signals.
The problem may be a characteristic of the
system. Check to see if the problem occurs in the
same place in a known-good vehicle. If it does, the
problem could be in the database. Go to step 4.
If the problem is the vehicle speed pulse, troubleshoot the vehicle speed signal circuit. BLU
wire for open or short. If OK, good ECM/PCM. If
the problem or symptom goes Update the ECM/
PCM (see page 11-227) if it does not have the
latest software or substitute a known-good ECM/
PCM (see page 11-228).
If the BACK signal is indicated ON (I), when in any shift lever position other than reverse,
troubleshoot the back-up light switch circuit or
MICU (A/T).
4. Substitute a known-good navigation unit (see page 23-355), and check to see if the problem occurs in
thesameplace.
The problem is in the database and should
be considered a characteristic of the system.
Report the problem according to the Navigation
System Owner’s Manual under Reporting Errors
and look for improvements in future databases.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
Is the GPS icon white or missing?
I s t he y aw r at e sensor OK ? Ar e t he v ehi cl e speed pul se and t he BACK si gnal s
OK ?
Does t he pr obl em occur i n t he same pl ace?
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System always comes up in in-line
diagnostic mode
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In Line Diag
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Navi ECU
Display XXXXCorrect PIN
GPS Antenna
RR Camera RadioXM
HFL
A/C
Exit Diag
Start Diag
BACK
Delete Done
KA
2. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
3. Select the Self-Diagnosis mode.
4. Check for error code in the Error History.
Refer to the Hard Error Code
troubleshooting.
Go to step 5.
5. Substitute a known-good climate control unit. Reconnect all connectors, and retest.
Replace the original climate control unit
(see page 21-75).
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355). 1. When a navigation unit is powered up for the first
time at the factory, the factory diagnosis screen (In
Line Diag) appears. Normally the factory performs
the steps necessary to verify proper operation, and
terminate the factory diagnostic. Until the proper
confirmation sequence is performed, the screen
will appear every time the vehicle is started.
2. Follow the steps to prevent the screen from showingupinthefuture:
Hold down the buttons (Menu, Map/Guide, and Cancel) for about 5 seconds. The Select
Diagnosis Items screen appears.
Hold down the Map/Guide button for 5 10 seconds. A screen with a Complete button,
appears.
Touch Complete, and then the Return button (the system may re-boot).
Restart the vehicle, and confirm normal operation by completing the PDI of the
navigation system Service Bulletin.
Are there any Hard Error Code stored?
Does t he sy mpt om go aw ay ?
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does not work properly System locks up or freezes constantly
YES
NO
YES
NO YES
NO
23-34823-348Navigation System
Symptom Troubleshooting (cont’d)
NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
Check the connectors for poor connection or loose terminals.
Before troubleshooting, get the navigation system anti-theft code.
After troubleshooting, enter the navigation system anti-theft code.
Full brightness on the instrument panel brightness control with the head lights turned on causes the
system to stay in the day mode, even when the lights
are on.
1. Make sure the instrument panel brightness control is not on full brightness. Turn the headlights on,
and adjust the dash brightness to the middle range.
2. Change the day/night mode under Set-up to AUTO, and recheck.
The system is OK at this time.
Go to step 3.
3. Go into the Diagnostic Menu and use the Car Status test to check for an ILL signal (see page 23-315).
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
Check the ILL circuit between the
navigation unit and the No. 14 (7.5 A) fuse in the
under-dash fuse/relay box. NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
Make sure that the correct DVD color and version are installed.
Check any official Honda service website for more service information about the navigation system.
1. Start the engine, and turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), then turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
The system is OK at this time.
Check the DVD for scratches or damage, and
the navigation unit for water damage. If OK, go into
the Diagnostic Menu, and do all of the Unit Check
tests (see page 23-305). Also check for low battery
charge or poor charging system performance.
Does t he d i spl ay change t o d ay and ni ght mod es w hen t ur ni ng t he head l i ght s on and of f ?
I s t he I LL si gnal OK ? Does the system reboot?
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switch in LOCK (0) Navigation cannot control audio system
YES
NO
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NO
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NO YES
NO
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NO
23-34923-349
NOTE:
Check the connectors for poor connections or loose terminals.
Before troubleshooting, get the navigation system anti-theft code, then write down the audio presets.
After troubleshooting, re-enter the anti-theft code, and re-initialize the navigation system, then enter the
audio presets.
Check for aftermarket accessories that use the same power circuit. A feedback can cause this problem.
1. Remove the key from the ignition.
Go to step 2.
The system is OK at this time.
2. The vehicle may have been used as a demonstration vehicle at an event like an auto
show. In these events, power is often jumpered to
the navigation system so that the ignition key is not
needed in the vehicle. At the end of the show, the
jumper wire may not have been removed. Check
the navigation unit connector A (24P) for a non-
factory jumper wire in series with the factory cable.
Remove the jumper wire, and re-test. Return
the jumper wire to Tech Line.
Go to step 3.
3. Check if the audio unit works.
Troubleshoot the ACC circuit for a short to
power with another circuit.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355). NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
Verify that the correct navigation unit is installed for this model. Go into the Diagnostic mode and use
Version (see page 23-316).
Check for connectors for poor connections loose terminals.
Before troubleshooting, make sure you have anti- theft codes for the navigation system.
After troubleshooting, enter the anti-theft codes for the navigation system.
Make sure that the correct navigation DVD color and version are installed.
Inspect the navigation DVD for dirt or damage.
Check any official Honda service website for more service information about the navigation system.
1. Make sure the anti-theft code for the navigation system is entered.
2. Go into the Diagnostic Menu, and use the Navi System Link test (see page 23-297).
Do the troubleshooting for the voice
guidance cannot be heard (see page 23-341).
Go to step 3.
3. Substitute a known-good navigation unit (see page 23-355), and recheck.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
Do the audio system troubleshooting.
Does t he nav i gat i on scr een st ay on?
Is t her e a j umper w i r e?Does the audio unit work with the ignition switchoff? Is the Radio icon red?
Can t he nav i gat i on cont r ol aud i o?
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OPEN/CLOSE function of the display does
not work
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NAVIGATION UNIT CONNECTOR A (24P)
RADIO GND (BLK)
NAVIGATION UNIT CONNECTOR C (8P) GND (BLK)
4. Measure the voltage between navigation unitconnector A (24P) terminal No. 12 and body ground,
and between navigation unit connector C (8P)
terminal No. 4 and body ground.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
Repair open in the wire between the
navigation unit and body ground (G 504, G505).NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
If the display’s Open/Close button does not work, you must manually open the display to obtain the client’s
navigation DVD, audio CD, and PC card (see page
23-269).
1. Press the OPEN/CLOSE button.
The system is OK at this time.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
Wire side of female terminals
Wire side of female terminals
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23-35223-352Navigation System
Symptom Troubleshooting (cont’d)
NOTE: Check the vehicle battery condition first.
1. Check the CD slot. Look for foreign objects, stuck CD, broken or sticking slot.
Go to step 2.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
2. Check the PC card.
Go to step 3.
Reseat the card or remove it. If it still won’t
close, replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
3. Press the OPEN/CLOSE button.
The system is OK at this time.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355). NOTE: Check the vehicle battery condition first.
1. Press the OPEN/CLOSE button.
Go to step 2.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
2. Press the OPEN/CLOSE button.
The system is OK at this time.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
Is the CD slot OK ?
I s t he PC car d f ul l y seat ed ?
Does t he d i spl ay open and / or cl ose nor mal l y ? Does t he uni t beep?
Does t he d i spl ay open nor mal l y ?
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23-353
NOTE:
Check the vehicle battery condition first.
The system will not operate without the 4-digit security (anti-theft) code. Follow the this procedure.
(After 10 consecutive tries, you must cycle the key to
continue trying)
The Navigation System Diagnosis and Core Return From is available online, under Job aids, and can be
printed out for recording this information. This
information will help the reman facility determine
what caused the failure.
Check the connectors for poor connections or loose terminals.
Before troubleshooting, make sure you have the anti- theft codes for the navigation system.
Verify that the correct navigation unit is installed for this model. Go into the Diagnostic mode, and use
Version (see page 23-316).
Make sure that the correct navigation DVD color and version are installed.
Check any official Honda service website for more service information about the navigation system.
1. Go into the System diagnosis menu (see page 23-297), select Unit check, and then ECU info. A
brief diagnostic runs for 20 seconds, and the serial
number is displayed.
Go to step 4.
Go to step 2.
2. Remove the navigation unit (see page 23-355).
3. Check the serial number on the label on the underside of the navigation unit.
Go to step 4.
Replace the navigation unit (see page 23-355). 4. Using the serial number, look up the navigation
security code in the Interactive Network. (click:
Service, Vehicle Information, Anti-Theft code
Inquiry, and then select Navigation from the
Product dropdown box). Enter the serial number.
Go to step 5.
Call the Warranty Department to obtain the
code (the telephone number is in the PDI service
bulletin).Thengotostep5.
5. Check that the obtained code works to bypass the code screen in the navigation system.
The system is OK at this time Return the
vehicle to the client, and give them the anti-theft
code.
Go to step 6.
6. Try entering four zeros (0000) in place for the code.
Replace the navigation unit, and enter
Security code is 0000 in the problem description
field of the core return form.
Replace the navigation unit, and enter Won’t
take security code (as proof, enclose the sticker that
contains the Serial number and the Code) in the
problem description field of the core return form.
Is t he ser i al number d i spl ay ed ?
Is the serial number conf irmed on the underside oft he nav i gat i on uni t ? Is a 4-digit code displayed on the screen?
Doesthecodework?Do t he f our zer os w or k t o by pass t he cod e scr een?
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