1999 HONDA CR-V idle rpm

ldle Control System
ldle Control System
I P0505 | The scan tool indicates Diagnostic T.ouble Code (DTCI PO5O5: ldlecontrol svstem mattunction.
NOTE: lf DTC P1508 is stored at the same time as DTC P0505, troubleshoot DTC P1508 first. then troubleshoot DTC p0505.
Possibls Cause
. IAC valve mechanical malfunction. Throttle body clogged port, improper adlustment. Intake manifold gasket leakaging. Intake air hose loose leakaging. Vacuum hose leakaging
a ECT sensor incorrect output. Throttle Position sensor incorrect output
Troubleshooting Flowchart
The MIL has been reDorted on.DTC P0505 is sto.ed.
Problem verificationi1. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator Ian comes on, thenlet it idle.2. With the scan tool, check thelollowing items.- Throttle position should beapprox. 10% with the throt-tle {ully closed.- Engine coolant temperature shorJld be 194 - 205'F(90 - 96"C).lf they are not within thespec., repair the faulty sen-sor circuit.3 Check the engine speed atidle with no-load conditions:headlights, blower fan. reardefogger, radiator lan, and airconditioner are not operaling,
Inte.mittent failure. syltem is OKat this time.ls it 750 {730)* i 50 rpm?
ls il 700 (680)' rpm or less?
{To page 11-151)(To page 1'l-151)
l:'99 - 00 models
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Alternator (ALT) FR Signal
This signals the ECM/PCM when the Alternator (ALTI is charging.
,97 modet: PCM GONNECTORS
wire side of female terminals
ALT CONNECTOR (C1O5I
lPr-F- ALT F
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lruueen wne
c (31P|
wire side ol f€male terminals
PCM CONNECTOR C I31P)
3Pr
JUMPERWIRE
Inspection ot ALT FR Signal.
Check lor a short in the wire
{ALT F line}:1. Disconnect the 4P 13Pi* connector from the ALT.2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll)
3, Measure voltage betweenPCM connector terminals C17
and A9.Check for a short in the wire(ALT F linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat'tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect PCM connector C(31P).
4. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and PCM connector terminal C17.
ls there approx. 5 V?
Check th€ ope.ation of the ALT:
1. Turn the ignition switch OFF2. Reconnect the ALT 4P {3Pi*connector to the ALT.3. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with no
load (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator fan comes on,
then let it idle.4. Measure voltage betweenPCM connector terminals C17and A9.
Ropeir short in the wir6 betweonthe PCM lC17l and the ALT.
Substitut. a known-good PCM
and recheck. lf prescribed volt-
age is now availablo, replace the
originalPCM.
Does the voltage decrease when
headlights and rear defogger are
turned on?ALT FR signal b OK.
Ch€d( for an op€n in tho wire IALTF linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat-tery cable lrom the battery.3. Disconnect PCM connector C(31P).
4. Disconnect the 4P (3P)* con-nector lrom the ALT.5. Connect the ALT 4P (3P)* con-nector terminal No. 4 (No. 1)*to body ground with a iumper
6. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and PCN4 con'nector terminal Cl7.
Repair open wi.e between thePCM lCl7l and the ALT.ls there continuity?
ALT F IWHT/REDI
Wire side of female terminals
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ldle Gontrol System
Alternator (ALT) FR Signal (cont'dl
'98 - 00 modols:
ALT CONNECTOR (C1I}5I
4P
rH] Arr Fl'l'ltwHr/REo)l3laF1
I JUMPER WIRE JUMPER+ WIRE
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {31PI
Wire side of female terminals
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {31P}
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B (25P)
Insp€ction of ALT FR Signsl.
Check fo. a shon in th. wire {ALTF linel:1. Disconn6ct the 4P (3P)* con-nector from the ALT.2. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).3. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals C5and 820.Ch€ck for a sho.t in iho wirc lAlTF lino):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnecl the negative bat,tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect ECM,PCM connec-torC (31P).
4. Check for continuity betwoenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal c5.
ls there approx. 5 V7
Check the opcration of the ALT:1. Turn the ignitioo switch OFF.2. Reconnect rhe ALT 4P (3P)*connector to the ALT.3. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator lan comes on,then let it idle.4. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals C5and 820.
Roprir lhort in tho wirc bstweentho ECM/PCM {Csl and the ALT.
Substitut. r known-good ECM/PCM and roch.ck. It Droscrib.dvoltage b now lvrilabls, .eplaccth. o.igin!l ECM/PCM.
Does the voltage decrease whenheadlights and rear defogger areturned on?ALT FR 3ignol is OK,
Chock lor an opon in tha wire (ALTF linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat-tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect ECM/PCM con-nector C (31P).4. Disconnect the 4P 13P)* con,nector from the ALT.5. Connect the ALT 4P {3P)* con-nector terminal No. 4 1No. 1)*to body ground with a jumper
6. Check for continuity betwe€nbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal C5.
Rsprir opan wiro batw.en thoECM/PCM lcsl .nd th. ALT.ls there continuity?
AI.T F IWHT/REDI
ALT F {WHT/REDI
Wire side ot Iemale terminals
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ldle Control System
Fast ldle Thermo Valve lA/T)
Description
To prevent erratic running when the engine is warming
up, it is necessary to raise the idle speed. The fast idle
thermo valve is controlled by a thermowax plunger.
When the engine is cold, the engine coolant surround-
ing the thermowax contracts the plunger, allowing addi-
tional air to be bvDassed into the intake manifold so that
the engine idles faster. When the engine reaches operat-
ing temperature. the valve closes, reducing the amount
of air bypassing into the intake manifold.
IDLEADJUSTING
IDLETHERMOVALVE
AIR BYPASS VALVE
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Inspgction
NOTE: The fast idle thermo valve is factory adjusted; it
should not be disassembled.
1. Remove the intake air duct from the throttle body.
2. Start the engine,
3. Put your finger over the lower port in throttle body,
and make sure that there is air flow with the engine
cold (engine coolant temperature below 86"F, 30'C).
lf there is no air flow, replace the fast idle thermo
valve and retest,
O-RINGSReplace.
11.0 kgfl.m, 7.2 lbl.ftl
Start the engine. Hold the engine at 3,000 rpm with no
load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan comes
on, then let it idle.
Check that the valve is completely closed. lf the valve
is leaking, the idle speed will drop when you cover the
lower pon. Check the engine coolant level and for air
in the engine cooling system {see section 10). lf the
cooling system is OK, replace the fast idle thermo
valve and recheck.
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ldle Speed Setting
Inspoction/Adiustmont
37 modsl:
NOTE:
. Before setting the idle speed, check the following
items:- The MIL has not been reportsd on.- lgnition timing- Spark plugs
- Air cleaner- PCV system
. lcanada) Pull the parking brake lever up. Stan the
engine, then check that the headlights are off.
1. Start the engine. Hold the engine at 3,000 rpm with
no load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan
comes on, then let it idle.
Connect a tachometer or a Honda PGM Tester.
Disconnect the 2P connector from the ldle Air Con-
trol (lAC) valve.
IAC VALVE
lf the engine stalls, restart the engine with the accel-
erator pedal slightly depr6ss6d, Stabilize the rpm at
1,000, then slowly release the pedal until the engine
idles.
Check idling in no-load conditions: hsadlights,
blower fan, rear d€fogger, radiator fan, and air con-
ditioner are not operating.
ldle spood should b.:
{80 t 50 rpm {in Park or noutr.ll
IDLE
7.
Adjust the idle sp6ed,
idle adjusting screw.
if necessary, by turning the
Turn the ignition switch OFF.
Reconnect the 2P connector to the IAC valve, then
remove the BACK UP (RAD|Ol (7.5 Al fuse in the
under-hood fuse/rslav box for 10 seconds to reset
the PCM.
Restart and let the engine idle with no-load condi-
tions for one minute, then check the idle speed.
NOTE: (Canadal Pullthe parking brake lever up. Stan
the engine, then check that the headlights are off.
ldlo Ep€ed rhould be:
75O t 50 rpm (in P.rk or noutr.ll
Let the engine idl6 for one minute with the head-
lights (Low) ON, and check th€ idl€ speed.
ldle lpcod 3hould bo:
750 t 50 ]pm (in Park or nautlal)
Turn the headlights off. Let th€ engine idle for one
minute with the headlights (Low) ON, heater fan
switch at Hl and air conditioner on. then check the idle
sDeeo.
ldl. specd should b6:
7d) 1 50 rpm {in Park or nautral}
lf the idle speed is not within specification, see the
symptom chart on page 11-64. (cont'd)
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ldle Control System
ldle Speed Setting (cont'd)
38 - 0O mod6l3:
NOTE: Before setting the idle speed, check the follow-
ing items:- The MIL has not been reported on.- lgnition timing- Spark plugs
- Air cleaner- PCV system
1. Start the engine. Hold the engine at 3.000 rpm with
no load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan
comes on, then let it idle.
Connect a tachometer.
Disconnect the IAC valve 2P connector and the EVAP
purge control solenoid valve 2P connector.
CONTROLSOLENOID VALVE
SOLENOID VALVE
lf the engine stalls, restart the engine with the accel-
erato. pedal slightly depressed. Stabilize the rpm at
1,000, then slowly release the pedal until the engine
idles.
Che€k the idle in no-load conditions: headlights, blow-
er fan, rear defogger, radiator fan, and air conditioner
are not operating,
ldle speed should bo:
480 t 50 rpm {in PErk or noutrall
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lf necessary, adjust the idle speed, by turning the
idle adjusting screw.
After adjusting the idle speed, recheck the ignition
timing (see section 4). lf it is out of spec, go back to
steo 4.tDt.E
6. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
7. Reconnect the 2P connectors to the IAC valve and
the EVAP purge control solenoid valve, then do the
ECM/PCM reset procedure.
8. Restart and idle the engine with no-load conditions
for one minute, then check the idle speed.
ldle speod should be:,98 model:
750 t 50 rpm tin Park or neutral)'9!l - 00 modsls:
730 i 50 lpm lin Psrk or neutral)
NOTE: lf the idle speed increases to 780 t 50 rpm(770 1 50 rpml*, this means the EVAP system is
purging the canister. To stop the purging temporari-
ly, raise the engine speed above 1,000 rpm with the
accelerator pedal, then slowly release the pedal.*: '99 - 00 models
9. Let the engine idle for one minute with the head-
lights (Low) ON, and check the idle speed.
ldle speed should be:
38 mod6l:
750 f 50 rpm (in Palk or neutrall'99 - 00 modols:
730 t 50 rpm (in Palk or neutral)
10. Turn the headlights off. Let the engine idle for one
minute with the heater fan switch at Hl and air con-
ditioner on, then check the idle speed.
ldls spqed should be:'98 model:
780 t 50 rpm (in Park or neutrall'99 - 00 mod€ls:
7701 50 rpm lin Park or neutral)
lf the idle speed is not within specification. see the
Symptom Chart on page 11-64.
ADJUSTING
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Intake Air System
Air Cleaner
Air Cleaner Eloment Rsplacomsnt
NOTE: Do not clean the air cleaner element by blowingit off with compressed air,
AIR CLEANER ELEMENTNo.mal conditions:Replace air cleaner element every30,000 miles {48,000 km) or 24months whichever comes first.Severe condition3:Replace air cleaner element every15,000 miles 124,000 km) or 12months whichever comes tirst.
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Throttle Cable
Inrpection/Adiustmcnt
1. Stan the engine. Hold the engine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan comeson, then let it idle.
2. Check that the throttle cable operates smoothly withno binding or sticking. Repair as necessary,
3. Check cable free play at the throttle linkage. Cabtedeflection should be 10- 12 mm (3/8 - 1l2in.l.
'97 - 98 modols:
CABLEBRACKET
LOCKNUT
DEFLECTION10-12mmBIA- 112 i^l
'99 - 0O modsls:
lf deflection is not within specs, loosen the locknut,turn the adjusting nut untilthe deflection is as speci-fied, then retighten the locknut.
With the cable properly adjusted. check the throttlevalve to be sure it opens fully when you push theaccelerator pedal to the floor. Also check the throt-tle valve to be sure it returns to the idle position
whenever you release the accelerator pedal.
DEFLECTIONl0-12mft
Bla - 112 inl
NUT
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lnstellation
1. Open the throttle valve fully, then install the throttle
cable in the throttle linkage, and install the cable
housing in the cable bracket.
97 - 98 modols:
THRoTTLE LINKAGE CABLE
INNER CABLE
- (Xl modols:
LOCKNUT
'99
2.Sta.t the engine. Hold the engine at 3.000 rpm with
no load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan
comes on, then let it idle.
Hold the cable sheath, removing all slack from the
cable.
Set the locknut on the cable bracket.
Adiust the adjusting nut so that its free play is 0 mm.
Rimove the cable sheath from the throttle bracket,
reset the adjusting nut and tighten the locknut.
ADJUSTING
BRACKET
'97 - 98 modals:
lhere should beno clearance.
AD.'USTING NUT
'99 - 00 modeb:
CABLEBRACKET
9.8 N.ml'1.0 kgt'm,7.2 tbr.ft)
9.8 N.m(1.0 kg{.m,7.2lbllrl
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