Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting Procedures (cont,dl
ll, Engine Control Module (ECM)/powertrain Control Module (pCM) Reset procedure
NoTE: Resetting the EcM/PcM will erase any stored DTcs and any freeze data. lt will also restart all readiness codemonitors.
Either of the following actions will reset the ECM/PCM.
. Use the OBD ll scan tool or Honda pGM Tester to clear the EClM,s/pCM,s memory.
NorE: see the oBD ll scan tool or Honda PGM Tester user's manuals for specific operating instructions.
' Turn the ignition switch oFF. Remove the BACK uP (7.5 A) fuse from the under-hood fuse/relay box for 10 sec-onds.
NorE: Bemoving the BACK uP (7 5 A) fuse cancels the clock and the radio presets. Make note of the customer,spresets so you can reset then
lll. Final Procedure (this procedure must be done after any troubleshoottng)
1. Remove the SCS Service Connector if it is connected.
NoTE: If the Scs service connector is connected and there are no DTcs stored in the EcMipcM, the MtL will stayon when the ignition switch is turned ON 0l).
2. Do the ECM/PCM Reset procedure.
3. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
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Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/PCM)
t'96 - 98 Models,'99 - 00 Dl6Y5 engine with M/Tl
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NOTE: lf th is svmptom is intermittent, check for a loose fuse No. 25 {METER 7.5 A) in the
underdash {use/relay box, a poor connection at ECM/PCM terminal A18, or an intermit
tent ooen in the GRN/ORN wire between the ECM/PCM (A18) and the gauge assemblv.
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR A I32PIPGl {BLKI
Wire side ot female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR A (32P}
Wire side of female terminals
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The Malfunc{ion Indicator Lamp
{MlLl never comes on (even lor
two secondsl atter ignition is
turned on.
Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
- Repair short or open in thewile botwoen No. 25 {M€TERI
17,5 Altus€ and gau99 assem'
bty.- Replaco No.25 IMETERI (7,5
A)tuse.
ls the low oil pressure light on?
Try to start the engine.
Does the engine stan?
Check lor an open in the wiles
{PG linosl:1. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
2. ldeasure vo ltage betweenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminals A10 andA23 individually.
Check tor an open in the wire ot
bulb (MlL line):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
2. Connect the ECM/PCM con-nector terminal A'18 to bodyground with a jumper wire.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
Repair open in the wire(s)
between ECM/PCM and G101(localod at the thetmostat hous_ingl that had more than 1.0 V.
ls thore less than 1.0 V?
Substituto . known-good ECM/PCM and recheck. It symptom/indication go6s away, roPlace
the origin.l ECM/PCM.
- Repair open in th€ wiresbetwoen ECM/PCM lAl8l andgaug6 a$embly.- Replace the MIL bulb,
ls the MIL on?
Substitute a known-good ECM/
PCM and .echeck. lf symptom/indication goes away, replacothe origin.l ECM/PCM.
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PGM-FI System
Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/PCMI
('96 - 98 Models,'99 - 00 Dl6Y5 engine with M/Tl (cont'd)
NOTE:. When there is oo Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) stored, the MtL wi
stay on if the SCSservace connector is connected and the ignition switch is on,. lf this symptom is intermittent, checklor:- A loose Fl E/M 115 A) fuse in the under hood luse/relay box- A loose No. 13 FUEL PUMP fuse (15 A) in the underdash fuse/relay box- An intermittent shon in the wire between the ECM/PCM (C7) and the service cnecKconnector- An intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A18) and the gaugeassembly- An intermittent shon in the wire between the ECM/PCM {D4) and the MAp sensorAn intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (D10), the Tp sensor, theEGR valve l:ft sensor (D16Y5 engine) and/or the Fuel tank pressure sensor (,96Dl6Y8 engine (coupe), '97 016Y7 engine (coupe: KL model, sedan: KL (LX) modeli,'97 016Y8 engine {coupe: all models, sedan: KL modeti,'98,all models}- PGM-FImain relay. See the OBD ll scan tool or Honda PGM Tester user's manuals lor specitic operatinginstructions.
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C 13lPI
Wire side of female terminals
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The Maltunction Indicator Lamp(MlLl stays on o. comes on eftartwo s€conds,
Check the Oiagnoslic TroubleCode {DTC}I1. Connect a scan tool or HondaPGM Tester.2. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
3. Read the DTC with the scantool or Honda PGM Tester.
Go to troubleshooting p.oc€dur€s(se€ pago 11{11.Are any DTC{s) indicated?
Check the DTC by MIL indication:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Connect the SCS service con,nector to the service checkconnector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (lli.
Repair opon ol short in wirebotwoen the ECM/PCM (C8)
and Data Link Connector.Go to troublelhooting proce-dure ls6e page 11-811.
Does the MIL indicate any DTC?
Try to start the engine.
Does the engine start?
Check for a short in the wire(SCS lin€l:1. Disconnect the SCS serviceconnector.2. Stop the engine and turn theignition switch ON {lli.3. Measure voltage between theECM/PCM connector terminalC7 and body ground.
Ropair short to body Iround inthe wire betweon ECM/PCM lCTland sorvice check connector.
ls there approx. 5 V?
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Check for a short in the wire {MlLlinell1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
2. Disconnect the Eclvl/PCM con-nector A (32P).
3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).
Ropair short to body gtound in
the wir. between the ECM/PCM
lA18) and MlL.ls the MIL ON?
Substitute a known-good ECM/
PCM and recheck. lt 3ymptom/indicaiion goes away, rePlace
ihe original ECM/PCM.
(From page 11 108)
Inspect Fl E/M (10 A) fuse in theundeFhood Iuse/relay box.
- Repair short in the wirg
b€tweon Fl E/M (15 A) luse
and PGM-FI main rolay.- Replace Fl E/M (15 Alfuse.
Inspect No. 13 FUEL PUMP (15 A)
fuse in the under-dash fuse/relaY
- Repait lhort in the wire
botween No. 13 FUEL PUMP
115 Al fuse and PGM-FI main
reray.- Roplace No. 13 FUEL PUMP115 Al tu3o.
Check for a short in a 3€nsor:1. Turn the ignition switch ON (lli.
2. Disconnecl the 3P connectorfrom each sensor one at time:
. TP sensor. EGR valve lift sensor (D16Y5
engrne). Fuel tank pressure sensor('96 D16Y8 engine (coupe),'97 D16Y7 engine (couPe:
KL model, sedan: KL (LX)
model),'97 D16Y8 engine
lcoupe: all models, sedan:KL model,'98-all models)
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Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (ECM/PCM)
('95 - 00 Models except Dl6Y5 engine with M/T)
NOTE:. When there is no Diagnostic Trouble Code lDTC) stored, the MIL will staY on if the SCS
seruice connector is connected and the ignition switch is on.. lf this symptom is intermittent, check for:- A loose No. 25 (METER) {7.5 A) fuse in the underdash fuse/relay box- A loose Fl E/M (15 Alluse in the undeFhood fuse/relay box- A loose No. 13 FUEL PUMPfuse (15 A) in the under-dash fuse/relay box- An intermittent shon in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A18) and the gauge assem'
- an intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (C19) and the MAP sensor- An intermittent short in the wire between the ECM/PCM {C28), the TP sensor, the
EGR valve lift sensor (D16Y5 engine) and/or the Fuel tank pressure sensor ('96 D16Y8
engine (coupe),'97 D16Y7 engine lcoupe: KL model, sodan: KL (LX) model)"g7
Dt6Y8 engine (coupe: all mod;ls, sedanl KL model),'98-all models,'99-al' models''00-all models.- PGM'FI main relay. See the oBD ll scan tool or Honda PGM Tester user's manuals for specific operating
instructrons,
ECM,/PCM CONNECTOR A I32PI
Wire side of {emale terminals
The Mrlfunction Indicator LamP{MlL) never comes on {even tor
two seconds) after ignition is
turned ON lll).
Turn the ignition switch ON lll).
- Repair shott or open in thowire bstwoon No. 25 IMETER)l?.5 A)tuse and gauga tsom_blv.- Reolace No. 25 (METERI (7.5
Alluse.
ls the low oil pressure light on?
Try to start the engine.
Check for an opon in the wire orbulb (MlL line):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Connect the ECM/PCM con'
nector terminal A18 to bodyground with a iumper wire.
3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll)
Does the engine start?
- Repair open in tho wire3
betwoon ECM/PCM (A18) andgaugo .*tembly.- Rool.ce the MIL bulb.
Substitute a known-good ECM/
PCM and rochoc&. lf sYmptom/indication goes sw6y, repl.ce
tho original ECM/PCM.Turn the ignition switch OFF.Inspect Fl E/M (15 A)fuse in theunderhood Iuse/relay box.
Rop.ir short in the wirc
betwo€n Fl E/M (15 A) luso
and PGM-Fl mrin rGl.y.Reol.ce Fl E/M (15 A)tusa.
lnspect No. 13 FUEL PUMP {15 A}
luse in the under-dash fuse/relay
- Reoair short in the wiro
between No. 13 FUEL PUMP
115 Al luse sod PGM-FI mainrelay.- Reolace No. 13 FUEL PUMP115 A) tuse.
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Elestrical Load Detector (ELD) f96 - 98 Models''99 - 00 D16Y5 engine with M/T)
ThescantoolindicatesDiagnosticTroubleCode(DTC)P1298:AhighvoltageproblemintheElectricalLoad
Detector (ELD) circuit
ELD 3P CONNECTOR {G's'I
Wire side ol female terminals
EL IGFN/REDI
Problom vcrificttion:
1. Do the EcM/PClVl Reset Pro-
cedure,2. Start the engine.
3. Turn on headlights.lntarmitt..rt l.ilur., ryttcm b OK
.t thia tim. Ch.ck lor Poo' con-
nections or looaa wir.3 at C131
lbcd.d und.r right ide ol dalhl'
Gl5a {EU)} .nd ECM/PCIYI
ls DTC P1298 indicated)
Ch.ck lor tn oPan in tho wir'
(lGl linol:1. Turn the ignition and head'
liohts OFF2. D]""onn""t the ELD 3P con_
nector-3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll)'
4. Measure voltage between body
ground and the ELD 3P connec
tor terminal No. '1.
R.oair ogan in tha wira Mw"n
ru". rs ltTEnrlton SP SelSOn
t?.5 A, fu!. in th. undcr-dr3h
tu3e/r.l!Y box .nd ELD.
Chcck lor tn oP.h in thc wire
{GND lincl:1. Turn the ignition switch and
headlights OFF.
2. Disconnect the ELD 3P con_
nector'3. Check for continuity between
body ground and the ELD 3P
connecto. terminal No 2
Raprir opcn in the wira bstwt€n
ELD conncctor lnd G/O2.
Ch.ck lor !n oplo in tha wirc IEL
lin.l:Check for continuity between the
ELD 3P connector terminal No 3
and ECM/PCM connector termi
nal D'16.
Rapaii opcn in the wira b€tw"n
ECM/FCM (I)161 .nd th. ELD'
Ch.d( fo. r m.llunction in thc ELD:
1. Reconnect the ELD 3P con'
2. Start th€ engine and allow it
to idle.3. Wh ile measuring voltage
beNveen ECM/PCM connector
terminals D16 and A9, turn
the headlights on {low).
Does the voltage droP?
Sub3titut. . known_good ECM/
PCM .nd rcch.ct. lt sYmptom/
indication goas away/ iapllc'
thc origin.l ECM/PCM
wire side of lemale termrnals
Wire side of Iemale terminals
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PGM-FI System
Elestrical Load Detector (ELDI ('99 - 00 Models except D16y5 engine with M/Tl
The scan tool indicates Diagnostic Trouble code (DTCI Pl298: A high vottage problem in the Etectrical LoadDetector (ELD) circuit.
ELD 3P CONNECTOR (65/0
EL {GRN/REOI
Wire side of fernale terminals
ELD 3P CONNECTOR (CA54I
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Wire side of lemale terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTORSA (32P1
Wire side of lemaleEI- IGRN/RED)terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
A {32P)
Problem ve.itication:1. Do the ECN4/PCM Reset pro
cedure.2. Start the engine.3- Turn on headiights.Inte.mittent teilu.e, svstem is OKat this lime. Chock for Door con-nections or loose wires at Ci31{located under Jight side otdaihl, C354 (ELD) and ECM/PCM.
ls DTC P1298 indicated?
Check for an open in the wire{lG1 line}:1. Turn the ignition and head-lights OFF.2. Disconnect the ELD 3P con
3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).4. Measure voltage between bodyground and the ELD 3P connec-torterminalNo. 1.
Repair opon in tho wiro batwe€nNo. 15 ALTERNATOR Sp SENSOR{7.5 A} fuse in th6 undor-dashIuse/reley box and ELD.
ls there battery voltage?
Check for an open in the wiro{GND linel:1. Turn the ignition switch andheadlights OFF.2. Disconnect the ELD 3P connector.3. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and the ELD 3Pconnector terminal No. 2,
Repair open in the wire bstwoenELD connsctor and Gia02.
Check ,or an open in the wire IELlinel:1. Disconnect the ECM/PCM con-nector A (32P).2. Check for continuity betweenthe ELD 3P connector terminalNo. 3 and ECM/PCM connec-tor terminal A30.
Chock fo. a malfunction in the ELD:'1. Reconnect the ELD connectorand ECM/PCM connectorA (32P).
2. Stan the engine and allow itto idle.3. While measuring voltagebetween ECM/PCM connectorterminals A30 and B2O, turnthe headlighrs on ow).
ls there continuity?
Repsir op€n in the wire betweenELD connector and ECM/PCM.
Substitute a known-good ECM/PCM and recheck. lf symptom/indication goes away. replacelh6 original ECM/PCM.
Does the vokage drop?
Wire side of f€male terminals
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ldle Control System
Starter Switch Signal ('96 - 98 Models,'99 - 00 D16Y5 engine with M/Tl
Thjs signals the ECM/PCM when the engine is cranking.
NOTE:. A/T: Transmission in E or E position. M/T: in neutral
a l32PlLGl
Wire side ot female lerminals
Check tor an open or short in thewire ISTS linel:Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals A9 andC6 with the ignition switch in thestart lllli position.
Inspect the No. 31 STARTER SIG-NAL (7.5 A) fuse in the underdashfuse/relay box.
- Repair .hort in the wirebotwoen tha ECM {C6l andtho No, 31 STARTER SIGNAL{7.5 Al tuss or the PGM-FImain relay,- Roolac. the No. 3'l STARTERSIGNAL l?.5 Al tu3€.
Staner 3witch signal is OK.
Repair opon in th6 wiro botweanih. ECII4/PCM (C6) and the No.31STARTER SIGNAL {7.5 Al tulo.
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
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